The Pre-incarnate Christ

Do you believe that these two natures are "inseparable" while not being "confused" (a mixture)?

In other words, do you agree with the creeds that Christ is fully God and fully man (not God with a human nature, not man with a divine nature but two natures inseparable and without confusion)?

Your post seems to reject both the Athanasian Creed by rejecting that Christ is fully human and perhaps even the Chalcedonian Creed by rejecting that these natures are inseparable (you seem to say that Christ is not fully human but is Divine with a human nature added, which would contradict not only Scripture but also both creeds).

I am just asking for clarification. Are you comfortable at least with saying that Jesus is fully human and fully God?

 

Let me clarify, @1689Dave ,

I am not Catholic so I do not view the creeds as the foundation of our faith. I do not care if one adheres to the creeds. BUT it does matter if people reject what at least the Athanasian Creed and Chalcedonian Creed have in common - and that is a basic doctrine of the Trinity (and here as it applies to Christ). If someone rejects that Jesus is fully human and fully God then they reject not only that the Word became flesh but they reject both of these creeds. The former, not the latter, would be my primary concern.

I am simply asking a yes or no question. Do you believe that Jesus is fully man and fully God - one person with two "natures", inseparable yet with no "mixture" - not more man than man, not less God than God.

You seem to be trying to reinvent the wheel. I am just asking if you agree if the wheel is round. Do you believe that Jesus is fully God and fully man?

 

That is what you say, but your posts call this into question. I can say that I only type in German but if I am typing in English my actions kinda betray my words.

I will, however, accept your statement as a declaration that you do indeed believe that Christ is fully man and fully God, one Person, two inseparable yet distinct natures, not more than man in his humanity nor less than God in His divinity.

A simple "yes" would have worked when I quoted the Athanisian Creed and asked you if you believed it correct.

 

No. I am not creedal (I do not believe that creeds are equal to God's Word).

What I do teach, and what the Creeds do teach, is that Christ is fully God and Fully man. But I prefer to lean on Scripture rather than Catholic creeds for support. The Gospel of John is one example of proof that Christ is fully God and fully man and I prefer to rest in God's Word.