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My position on the Trinity

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JonC

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1689Dave said:
It is your logic of Christ having two persons that end there.
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No. My logic has nothing to do with it.

Christ is ONE PERSON, fully God, fully man. I know you cannot grasp this but that does not justify you misrepresening other people's views.

And @Reformed holds a perfectly orthodox position in regards to Christian anthropology. I do not share his view but I am also not Reformed. R. C. Sproul defended his view very well.
 
1689Dave

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JonC said:
No. My logic has nothing to do with it.

Christ is ONE PERSON, fully God, fully man. I know you cannot grasp this but that does not justify you misrepresening other people's views.

And @Reformed holds a perfectly orthodox position in regards to Christian anthropology. I do not share his view but I am also not Reformed. R. C. Sproul defended his view very well.
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You are singing a different tune without admitting you were wrong.
 
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JonC said:
He has declared on another forum that those who affirm the Athanasian Creed and the Chalcedonian creed by claiming Christ is completely God and completely man are guilty of Nestorianism.

The statement he decried as heresy is "Christ is one person, two natures (indivisible yet without mixture), completely God, completely human".

His charge was that this is attacking the Chalcedonian Creed and Nestorianism because saying Christ is "completely God, completely human" is the same as saying Christ is two persons.

He offered an illustration that our finger is "completely human", Christ had a human body and soul but not a human spirit.

His view is called Apollinarianism and was deemed heretical in 381.

He wants to make sure his rejection of orthodox doctrine here is not a cause to be banned. My opinion is we have to allow some room because this is a difficult doctrine to articulate and an impossible one to fully understand.

Not all have studied theogy at a graduate level and many may not be familiar with Apollinarianism or the distinction of bipartite vs tripartite when it comes to Christian anthropology.

The question is whether or not is considered a "strong heresy" by the Administration. I do not think so but I am not the deciding factor.
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The Son of God is one person. That would be one soul not two souls. The heresy of Apollinarianism denied He had a human soul, see the problem framing the issue.
 
1689Dave

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Yeshua1 said:
The Holy Spirit can explain the bible to us better then the Creeds can!
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The Holy Spirit uses the creeds to summarize the bible and teaches us the full view of the topic. We don't run on vibes. You didn't even know such doctrine existed when we began this discussion.
 
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1689Dave said:
The Holy Spirit uses the creeds to summarize the bible and teaches us the full view of the topic. We don't run on vibes. You didn't even know such doctrine existed when we began this discussion.
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All Christian theology needed to know and apply is found in the Bible itself, as revealed to us by the Spirit!
 
JonC

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The issue with creeds and confessions are not with creeds and confessions themselves but how they are accepted. They are, hopefully, based in Scripture but even if they are quotes of Scripture they are not Scripture itself because certain passages are extracted for a specific purpose. This does not mean that they are false. It means that they are human products to explain or express human understanding of Scripture and as such are subordinate to Scripture needing to be weighed every time against Scripture.
 
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