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  1. Alan Gross

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    The COMFORT & CALL to EVANGELISM
    that MODERN CHRISTIANITY is MIIIISSSSIIINNNNGGGG.

    Let JESUS BE A COMFORT to YOU !

    THE SECOND COMING of JESUS     ( PAROUSIA )
    and THE END of THE EARTH

    WILL BE:

    God’s Consummation of All Things
    and     The End of Time.

    John 14:1;
    “Do not let your hearts be troubled.
    You Believe in God; Believe in Me as well.
    …
    “2 In My Father’s House Are Many Mansions.
    …
    If it were not so, Would I Have Told you
    that I Am Going There to Prepare A Place for you?
    …
    “3 And if I Go and Prepare A Place for you,
    I Will Come Back and Welcome you Into My Presence,
    so that you Also May Be Where I Am”
    …
    NEW TESTAMENT TEXTS
    & The Gist of Texts:
    TEACHING     THE SECOND COMING of JESUS CHRIST.
    …
    Matthew:
    …
    1. 13:37-43
    The Parable of the Wheat and the Tares
    ( in which JESUS CHRIST describes THE END of THE WORLD,
    when JESUS COMES AGAIN ).

    37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

    38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

    39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the age {world}; and the reapers are the angels.

    40 As, therefore, the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this age {world}.

    41 The Son of man shall send forth His angels, and they shall gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and them who do iniquity,

    42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire; there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

    43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.


    ANYONE 'ADDING' something to do with a 'mill'(?) into this is Apostate,
    not just a novice in The End Times TAUGHT IN THE BOOK!!!!!!!!!

    Let THE IMMINENT COMING of JESUS CHRIST and THE END of THE WORLD be a COMFORT to you & ANSWER THE CALL to EVANGELISE MODERN CHRISTIANITY & THE LOST AND DYING WORLD.


    9.0.0 > NT Intro iv: SIXTY-SIX NEW TESTAMENT Verses Teach The SECOND COMING of JESUS CHRIST & THE END of TIME.
     
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    How did the unsaved get into the "kingdom" as apparently indicated by Matthew 13:41?

    "The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness, (NASB) ​

    Could the actual idea be that the angels with gather from "outside of His kingdom" (which is the world or unsaved humankind) the stumbling blocks (snares of the devil) and those who are lawless.
     
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    1st part: extreme unsubstantiate-able stretch.

    This is like, "arguing from silence".

    I want to stick to 'plain teaching'.

    Something that's CONFIRMED, PLAINLY, ELSEWHERE.



    2nd part:

    Not me, not to be negative.

    "His Kingdom", needs to be regarded as, "the brotherhood of mankind".

    All people, Over whom, JESUS is LORD and KING, Saved or lost.

    We can't 'assume' He Means, "His Saved children in HIS SAVED Kingdom on Earth".

    Now, if 'the angels' are Ministers of God, maybe yes.

    Yes, that is what it is saying.
     
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    Thanks for your effort.
    I know of no scripture that suggests His Kingdom is "the brotherhood of mankind."

    OTOH, scripture teaches it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.

    As far as a "stretch" we could translate "ek" as out of, or "not in." And if we make that choice the "stretch" becomes a small step for man.

    But, if Matthew had intended to convey they were outside of the kingdom, he should have used a different word (exo) and since he did not, perhaps as you suggest, His kingdom refers to something other than than the kingdom of God.

    When the phrase "sons of the kingdom" appears it seems to refer to the descendants of Abraham, and as we know, some of these "sons" are cast into the outer darkness where there is gnashing of teeth. (Matthew 8:12)
     
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    Perhaps you can point out the 'call' to evangelize the tares in the parable, I don't see it.
     
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    O.K. You may not believe this but Jesus is Coming Back.

    After Jesus Returns, there will be no more "Life on Earth", as we know it.

    Jesus' Return, according to the text AND over sixty other verses stated at the link, provided, is....The END of The WORLD.

    I said you may not believe it.

    I know 2 people who do.

    However, THAT prospect, as a Model for a Theory called, "Jesus is Coming Back ANY SECOND in JUDGEMENT and The Commutation of The Age, the dead Raised, The Judgement Seat of Christ, The Eternal Faith of ALL Individuals in Mankind, The Creation of The New Heaven and New Earth, where the Saved Will Enjoy Eternity, with THEIR SAVIOUR, is easy to comprehend for a Saved Individual, as it is to say, "I don't believe in Star Wars" ( or what I think a Bible example of Star Wars is). .

    Ah,...........did I lose you ( everybody?).....

    That Saved person has the actually look at The Bible, though.

    Would God's Chosen Ministers STILL BE ABLE TO BE FOOLED, by Satan, TO NOT EVAGELISE, if they Spiritually Understood The Parable of the Wheat and the Tares
    ( in which JESUS CHRIST describes THE END of THE WORLD,
    when JESUS COMES AGAIN )?
     
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    ...all that and you still didn't answer the simple question...
     
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    Did you have a question?

    Your testimony is, "ca sera sera what will be will be", I believe.

    Is that correct?

    So, now you have a question?

    Do you think Jesus Will Come Back, today?
     
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    Would God's Chosen Ministers that WERE SENT TO PREACH THE GOSPEL; who ALSO do understand that The Lord Uses the Instrumentality of Preaching The Gospel to Save them that are lost:

    STILL BE ABLE TO BE FOOLED, by Satan, TO NOT EVAGELISE, if they Spiritually Understood The Parable of the Wheat and the Tares
    ( in which JESUS CHRIST describes THE END of THE WORLD,
    when JESUS COMES AGAIN )?

    No One will be Saved Once Jesus Returns.

    That is The TEACHING of THE BIBLE.


    God's Chosen Ministers WOULD PREACH THAT JESUS IS COMING, ONCE FOR ALL, if they were not Apostate.
     
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    "A COMFORT & CALL to EVANGELISM 1. The Parable of the Wheat and the Tares"

    Once again, where in this parable is a 'call' to evangelize?
     
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    How about, "I" Make The Call to EVANGELISE??

    1:57pm, EST; 08/28-2020.

    Even if apostates* don't "believe" in Preaching The Gospel
    they ought to feel Compelled TO TELL SOMEONE, 'JESUS IS COMING BACK'.

    So, for those Saved children of Jesus' Spirit-filled people alive on Earth, today,
    not ONLY DO WE HAVE TO SAY: 'Jesus is Coming Back, as in, TODAY, Forever,

    but ALL SAVED SOULS MUST WARN OTHERS of THE WRATH of GOD to COME, The Day of Vengence of our God, by PREACHING THE DEATH, BURIAL, & RESURRECTION of JESUS CHRIST.

    So, for your Hard/soft-headed*, "Baptist in Name, Only"), or Hardshell, to see, "Preach The Gospel, here:

    37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

    38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom;

    but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

    39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil;

    the harvest is the end of the age {world}; and the reapers are the angels.

    40 As, therefore, the tares are gathered

    and burned in the fire;

    so shall it be in the end of this age {world}.

    41 The Son of man shall send forth His angels, and they shall gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and them who do iniquity,

    42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire; there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


    ...would be like asking The Lord to Reward the UnFaithful, Disobediant Apostates, the Same as He Will FAITHFUL SERVANTS and WORSHIPPERS, WHO BRAG ON HIS SON......FOR SAVING THEM & TELLING OTHERS ABOUT IT......:

    43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.


    however, NONE of THIS Parable is written to UnFaithful, Disobediant Apostates.


    "the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father"

    ARE THOSE,

    "Who hath ears to hear, let him hear."

    ......
     
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    The fact is you made a lousy choice of text to promote evangelism. The servants were told to leave the tares be, not evangelize them. Why is that?

    38 and the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one;
    39 and the enemy that sowed them is the devil: Mt 13

    43 Why do ye not understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my word.
    44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.
    45 But because I say the truth, ye believe me not.
    46 Which of you convicteth me of sin? If I say truth, why do ye not believe me?
    47 He that is of God heareth the words of God: for this cause ye hear them not, because ye are not of God. Jn 8

    6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast your pearls before the swine, lest haply they trample them under their feet, and turn and rend you. Mt 7
     
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    Thank you, for tampling the op under your feet, as if you are anyone.

    I wouldn't worry about being told not to Evangelize, I'd turn my attention to numero Ono.
     
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    12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and men of violence take it by force. Mt 11
     
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    Neither verse is referencing a Salvion subject matter.
     
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    This is a mistranslation, but it is a very common mistranslation.

    The kingdom of Heaven is forcefully advancing and forceful people are laying hold of it, is the intended message.
     
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    That's quite a stretch to render it that way.

    The kingdom of heaven suffered violence when John the Baptist was thrown into prison and it was men of violence that put him there along with commiting a myriad of other persecutions against the kingdom, such as murdering Christ. 'Men of violence take it by force':

    38 But the husbandmen, when they saw the son, said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and take his inheritance. Mt 21
     
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    I am sure you are aware of the many scholars who disagree with your view and agree with my view.
     
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