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NATION shall rise against NATION ... G7 will be DISSOLVED?

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    The END of the World is at door, but is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows.

    G7, and G20, and EU, and UNO, among others Entities, will be DISSOLVED henceforward. Day after day, the happenings of the World will run in this way.

    The heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word were kept in store, reserved unto fire against THIS DAY OF JUDGMENT and perdition of ungodly men.

    Seeing then that all these things shall be DISSOLVED, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, looking for and hasting unto the coming of the Day of God - this Lord's Day - , wherein the heavens being on FIRE - it is not material fire - shall be DISSOLVED, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

    Nevertheless the God's people, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, BE DILIGENT that you may be found of Him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

    1John 2:v.28 - And now, little children, abide in Him; that, when He shall appear, all may have confidence, and not be ashamed before Him at His coming.

    In Christ JESUS, KING of kings and LORD of lords
    Your fellow in Christ
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    The antichrist shall come to power before these things occur.
     
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    Quite the opposite, in my understanding and vision, these things will force the manifestation of the main ruler and head of the antichrist 's kingdom, who will manifest himself very soon as God (2Thes.2), in fact he is the own Satan incarnated. Satan himself will manifest as a lamb, but will speak as a dragon-, actually he is the son of perdition, a former Cherub, trying to save his diabolical world-Luke 4:v.5to7-from destruction that will be done by the Most High God, as is written in prophetical message from JESUS in Revelation 11: v.18.

    But he will be cast down into the bottomless pit in accord the prophecy -
    Rev.20:v.1-3-, that he deceive the nations no more.

    May our LORD God bless and keep us, and give us His protection
    Amem.
     
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    No, you're making stuff up, or repeating stuff some other man made up. Scripture says the antichrist will be a MAN, & so will his sidekick, the false prophet. Daniel, Paul, & Revelation all call him a man.

    The SCRIPTURAL view says he will form an empire, war against the saints & prevail, etc. It appears the rapture will occur before he begins his true evil. The great trib will begin shortly after he attains full power, as we see some of its plagues poured out upon the seat of his kingdom.
     
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    I mentioned 2Thessalonians 2 to give support to my understanding and vision about the things listed in the opening of the topic, whose things will force the manifestation of the main ruler and head of the antichrist 's kingdom, who will manifest himself very soon as God (2Thes.2), in fact he is the own Satan incarnated. Did not you read Scriptures? What is written in 2Thes2? Here goes:
    2Thessalonians 2:v.1-4
    1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
    2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the Day of Christ - the Lord's Day - is at hand.
    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that MAN of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
    4 Who (whose MAN will) oppose(th) and exalte(th) himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth (will sit) in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.


    You did not interpret the Scriptures above that I have mentioned in my post you replied, it because the spirit of antichrist of the MAN of sin, the son of perdition, are working with you, "even him
    whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved".




    Paul Apostle, author of the book of Thessalonians, was a MAN really, I mentioned the content of his book repeating what he prophesied around 2000 years ago about the MAN THAT WILL BE THE MAIN RULER OF THE ANTICHRIST'S KINGDOM, because he -the Apostle Paul - and me, we work with the same Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, understand?
     
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    Now, I never said he wouldn't be a man. And so will his sidekick, the false prophet.
     
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    Please, our discussion here is not if Paul the Apostle was a man or not, your spirit surreptitiously went out of the focus. You wrote to me in your post above: " you're making stuff up, or repeating stuff some other man made up". Scripture says the antichrist will be a MAN, ..."

    Now, now, I quoted 2Thessalonians 2 as a proof that
    the MAIN RULER AND HEAD of the antichrist's kingdom - I am speaking of a MAN evidently -, HE WILL MANIFEST HIMSELF VERY SOON AS GOD (2Thes.2), in fact he is the own Satan incarnated, as I said in my post above.

    Antichrist is not only a MAN,
    as you say ERRONEOUSLY, but a Kingdom as I said in my post. Now, now, if the ANTICHRIST is a MAN as you say, then it would be two MEN with you, not one, but in fact there is a multitude that have the same spirit of you working for the Antichrist's kingdom, unfortunately.



    What you wrote above is a mix of one thing true and several false things; what is true in your comment above according Scripture, it is about the "War against the saints & prevail, etc", all the other things you wrote according your spirit are lies, yeah, only and only lies.
     
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    Seems like YOU'RE the storyteller here, making up your own meanings for Scripture as you go.
     
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    What matters is the Truth, agree? The Word is the Truth, right? The Word is God. You said in your post #4 above: "Scripture says the antichrist will be a MAN, ...The SCRIPTURAL view says he will form an empire, war against the saints & prevail, etc."

    OK. So in accord your interpretation of Scriptures, the MAN you say will be the antichrist, he will make "War against the saints & prevail, etc." Based in this scriptural assertion you highlighted, who is this MAN, that Scripture says will make "war against the saints" in this time of Apocalypse? It seems the SCRIPTURAL view is giving us a clue to identify who is this MAN, no? What do you think?
     
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    gabriel told daniel he will be "the prince of the people who shall destroy Jerusalem", referring, of course, to the Romans. Paul wrote about "the man of sin". while Revelation calls both the man & his empire "the beast from the sea". And it says 666 is the number of a MAN.

    So, he will certainly be a man & his empire.
     
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    Very interesting. God sent the great messenger Gabriel(capital G) to tell Daniel about the MAN we are focusing. You did not make mention of Scriptures, so I needed to search where is written the things Gabriel told to Daniel. I did find where is written and I highlight the follow: Daniel 8:v.16-19:
    16 And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision. 17 So he came near where I stood...: he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision. 19 And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed, the end shall be.

    See, I agree with you that Gabriel did "refer to the Romans, of course", yet in this time of the end (time of Apocalypse), and in this last end of indignation as was told to Daniel (and to us too, of course, I believe we are living at the time of the end, the last end of the indignation, time of Apocalypse).


    I agree with you that "Revelation calls the MAN & his empire" the beast from the sea. By the way, you said in another post above(post #4) "The SCRIPTURAL view says he (the beast of sea) will form an empire, war against the saints & prevail, etc." YES, the things about the focused MAN, who is the beast of sea, are written in Revelation 13:v.1to10. The first verse says: 1-And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

    But what are the seven heads of this MAN, the beast of the sea?
     
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    NATION shall rise against NATION ... G7 will be DISSOLVED?

    Ony 20 minutes left on God's watch, and the Devil’s world must be annihilated forever.

    Do not think that the things of the world in which your are living will be the same as before, it will not happen at all, but never, never again, there is no turning back, destruction is forever.

    Do you know how many YEARS of our calendar is proportional to the 20 minutes left on God's watch for the Devil's world to fall apart and be annihilated forever?

    See, there is no future for the Devil's world that you are living in except severe punishments, only and only plagues, only and only punishments, and the hell's fire.

    You have these 20 minutes to get up here, if you stay down there and don't get up here you will perish. The second concert was and is just a step that served you only to get up here in the third heavenly environment. Again: You have these 20 minutes to come up here, whether you understand it or not, if you stay down there and don't come up here you will perish.

    There is no future for the Devil's world that you are living in except hell. Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb.
     
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    Exactly in this present time, three riders of three horses of Apocalypse -three strong powers- are running in
    the earth, and each one is doing and will do his work.

    The rider-the MAN- of the white horse, and the rider-the powerful MAN-of the red horse, and the rider-the powerful MAN- of the pale horse.
    The black horse rider is still missing to manifest himself. Who will be him or what nation is he from?
     
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    YES, THE CARNAL ISRAEL, THAT IS THE DRY LAND, AND SPIRITUALLY SODOM AND EGYPT, WILL BE DISSOLVED.AND BOTH THE OLD TESTAMENT AND NEW TESTAMENT WILL ALSO BE DISSOLVED-2Peter 3. After these events, the Kingdom of God will be established here. Revelation 11:v.15 and 18 combined with Matt.5:v.5.

    The fullness of the Gentiles has arrived, and the two Covenants that God designed and implanted on Earth, the Old and New Testaments, will both be DISSOLVED in the short term, and CARNAL Israel will also be DISSOLVED and will no longer be, forever, it will exist no more, never more.

    Prophecies will be annihilated, tongues will cease, salvation for the peoples will no longer "rain" for ever. It's done. Through the MOUTH of my Lord JESUS, He declares blessed those who are at His right hand-Matt.24:v.34, and CURSED, FOREVER, ALL THOSE WHO ARE AT HIS LEFT HAND.Matt.24:v.41
     
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    Yeah, the world of Devil will be dissolved by the complete. THE CARNAL ISRAEL, THAT IS THE DRY LAND, AND SPIRITUALLY SODOM AND EGYPT, WILL BE DISSOLVED.AND BOTH THE OLD TESTAMENT AND NEW TESTAMENT WILL ALSO BE DISSOLVED-2Peter 3. After these events, the Kingdom of God will be established here. Revelation 11:v.15 and 18 combined with Matt.5:v.5.

    And the nations will be angry, and the God's wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they be judged, and that God gives reward unto His servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear His name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.




    Revelation 22:v. 12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

    Revelation 22:v.17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

    ........................................................ COME, GRACIOUS SPIRIT .................................................





     
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    Take in mind :

    10 ... The heavens
    (the FIRST two heavens - the true Christians will be caught to the third heaven in this corrent time) shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

    11 Seeing then that all these things shall be DISSOLVED (as an implosion), what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

    12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God - the Lord's Day -, wherein the heavens (the FIRST two heavens) being on fire shall be DISSOLVED(as an implosion) and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

    13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens(the next is the third heaven, and after the millennial kingdom, even in the Eternity, then will be the heaven of the heavens) and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

    14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of Him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

     
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    The person of the Holy Spirit is a warrior. Isaiah 63:v.1-11combined with Rev.19:11-21-wonderful revelations

    Who is this that cometh from EDOM, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.

    2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?

    3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment. (Revelation 19:v.11-15)

    4 For the Day of VENGEANCE is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come. (1Thes.4:v.16)

    5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.

    6 And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth.

    7 I will mention the lovingkindnesses of the Lord, and the praises of the Lord, according to all that the Lord hath bestowed on us, and the great goodness toward the house of Israel, which he hath bestowed on them according to his mercies, and according to the multitude of his lovingkindnesses.

    8 For he said, Surely they are my people, children that will not lie: so he was their Saviour.

    9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel (in fact an archangel) of his presence -the person of the Holy Spirit - saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old. (Exodus 14:v.19-20 among others)

    10 But they REBELLED, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he -the Holy Spirit - was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.

    11 Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him?


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    Take in mind :

    10 ... The heavens (the FIRST two heavens - the true Christians will be caught to the third heaven in this corrent time) shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

    11 Seeing then that all these things shall be DISSOLVED (as an implosion), what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

    12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the Day of God - the Lord's Day -, wherein the heavens (the FIRST two heavens) being on FIRE shall be DISSOLVED(as an implosion) and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

    13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens(the next is the third heaven, and after the millennial kingdom, even in the Eternity, then will be the heaven of the heavens)and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

    14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of Him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
     
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    You should all focus on Revelation 6: v.4 to understand the ORIGIN of the multitude of peoples that are dying not only in the US, but around the world. Yes, Revelation 6: v.4 is prophetic and shows you the CAUSE of so many dead, or lost lives of multitudes, that is running in your world. And death will be increased from now on. Yeah, Revelation 6:v.4. Get ready.
    And according Isa.5:v.14, hell (the grave) will enlarge herself, and will open her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoices, shall descend into it. Remember: The Word is God, yeah, the Word is God, understand? Therefore ...
     
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    THE TRUMPET SHALL SOUND

    This is the message that must be preached in all TRUE Christian Churches around the world as One in Christ JESUS.

    The work of testifying of the righteous Judgment of God, and respective God's punishments, and vengeance, and pour plagues, against the nations ruled by the spirit of Devil, the spirit of antichrist, -Revelation 11:v.6-, yeah, this is the work of the saints of the Most High God within the TWO candlesticks of the END of the times: -
    the true Jewish Christian Church in particular-Revelation 7-, and the true Gentile Church of Christ JESUS of all nations as One, as also prophesied Daniel-Dan.7:v.13-14&18 & 21-27 combined with 2:v.44-45, among other biblical references.

    The message of the Word of God for God's people, in the present time, is: Revelation 2:v.25-29

    25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

    26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the END, to him will I give power over the nations:

    27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

    28 And I will give him the morning star.

    29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

    THE TRUMPET SHALL SOUND

    May our LORD God bless and keep us, and give us His protection
    Amen
     
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    NATION shall rise against NATION ... G7 will be DISSOLVED?

    Remember or do not forget. JESUS left very very clear for His people, His followers, His disciples until the day of today, and for ever, saying: All Power is given unto me in Heaven and in Earth-Mat.28:v.18. See, no matter if He is invisible now; In fact, in this moment, He is in the third heaven waiting for His people, there will be the place of the glorious meet with His Church-(Luke 20:v.35-36). Aleluiaaaa!

    But, NATION shall rise against NATION ... G-7 will be DISSOLVED?

    Do not forget. Paul, the Apostle, prophesied - the Word is God -, saying: 1Corinthians 15:v.24-27: -
    24 The END cometh , when He shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have PUT DOWN all rule and all authority and power.
    25 For he must reign, till he hath PUT ALL ENEMIES UNDER HIS FEET.

    26 The last enemy that shall shall be destroyed is death.

    27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
    28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.


    But see:
    the nations will be angry ... and God - the Word is God - shall destroy them which destroy the earth. Rev. 11:v.18 combined with the verse 6.

    The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever.
    Revelation 11:v.15


    Take in mind.
    Revelation 6:v.9-10
    9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

    10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not Judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? --->Take in mind: the Day -the time- of Vengeance arrived -

    Revelation 16:v.1 - And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. ---> This will will fulfil LITERALLY from now on.


    Take in mind. Revelation 6:v.15-17

    15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

    16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

    17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

    Get ready.
     
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