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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by utilyan, Dec 17, 2020.

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  1. MB

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    You're seeing things that just aren't there as usual. Like all Calvinist you always twist it to make it match your imagination. Not one of these say we are born sinners.
    Psa 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
    Psa 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
    Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
    Gen 8:21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.
    You really need to read scripture as it is and not as you want it to be.
    MB
     
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    Look at post 19 you claim we are born sinners and none of what you post states this is true. Oh you interpret it to say that but the fact is it does not.
    MB
     
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    Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

    You changed shall be to are. Anytime a man must change the words of God to prove his doctrine, he's got a heresy.
     
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    Babies receive jesus by faith?
     
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    His Church declared the reformation theology as being damnable theology!
     
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    How can dead persons respond to a call to be now saved in and by themselves though? Rome gives their answer to that, by sacramental grace system!
     
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    we are born innocent, and in a right relationship with God then?
     
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    Children especially Babies have no law to trespass because they do not understand it. No Law, No Sin.Baby burners hate Babies they want them to burn in Hell.
    MB
     
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    we were all judged and found guilty in adam!
     
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    just ONE Scripture that teaches this nonsense will suffice!
     
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    and there are MANY "reformed" that teach paedobaptism!
     
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    Many have given verse after verse to support the doctrines of grace. Those verses are immediately dismissed as “false teaching” and so on without engaging the text at all.

    Therefore, it seems to me to be a waste of effort to give the same verses again and again expecting those who refuse to engage in respectful discussion to even consider them.

    peace to you
     
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    ONE verse that says anything about God "enabling" the sinner who then calls on Him?
     
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    Luther had the best argument (though I disagree with him) for infant baptism. He believed infants could express faith in God in such a way that He (God) could understand but that adults could not. He based that belief, I think, on the fact that John the Baptist was filled with Holy Spirit while in his mother’s womb.

    They same, I suppose, could be stated of mentally disabled, mute or so on.

    peace to you
     
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    That is why I am a reformed Baptist, as Calvin got water baptism wrong!
     
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    You have already declared it to be “nonsense”. If I gave you a verse, would you consider it?

    Peace to you
     
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    Acts 16:14
     
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    Believe that Lutherans hold that in the water Baptism, God grants to the baby saving faith!
     
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    The Greek for this verse, and the quote in Acts 2:21, and the original in Joel 2:32 (Greek), is stronger:


    πας γαρ ος αν επικαλεσηται το ονομα κυριου σωθησεται Romans 10:13

    και εσται πας ος αν επικαλεσηται το ονομα κυριου σωθησεται Acts 2:21

    και εσται πας ος αν επικαλεσηται το ονομα κυριου σωθησεται (Joel 2:32)

    Literal translation, "and it shall be, that anyone whoever shall call upon the Name of The Lord, shall be saved"

    In Romans it reads, "for anyone whoever..."

    Clearly the Universal scope of the Death of Jesus Christ, and can never be "limited" as the Reformed/Calvinists have forced the Bible to do!"
     
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    another misuse of the verse! It is BECAUSE this woman was a WORSHIPPER OF GOD, as was Cornelius in chapter 10, that the Lord "opened" her understanding to what she heared! Because Cornelius was "a devout man and one who feared God with all his household", that God sent Peter with the Gospel!
     
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