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Does God Prevent Some from Hearing The Gospel?

SavedByGrace

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Judas was never one of His sheep, so Jesus never died for Judas!

so according to you, Jesus is a liar!!! Luke 22 clearly says that Jesus told Judas that He died for him! No other way to take these words, than even two of your own theologians, Henry and Gill, admit that Judas did drink of that cup that represented Jesus Death! You too are fighting against the Word!
 

Yeshua1

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so according to you, Jesus is a liar!!! Luke 22 clearly says that Jesus told Judas that He died for him! No other way to take these words, than even two of your own theologians, Henry and Gill, admit that Judas did drink of that cup that represented Jesus Death! You too are fighting against the Word!
All those whom Jesus died for are saved by Him, period!
 

SavedByGrace

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All those whom Jesus died for are saved by Him, period!

I am sorry to have to say this. But you are no different here in your unbiblical arguing, than when I am speaking with the JW's who I meet with. I have shown them from the Greek grammar, even from non Christian grammars, that John could never have written "a god" in John 1:1, and they still argue against the Truth. very much what you are doing here, because of your theological bias, you will not admit what the Bible says on Judas, because it will upset your "theology!
 

Yeshua1

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I am sorry to have to say this. But you are no different here in your unbiblical arguing, than when I am speaking with the JW's who I meet with. I have shown them from the Greek grammar, even from non Christian grammars, that John could never have written "a god" in John 1:1, and they still argue against the Truth. very much what you are doing here, because of your theological bias, you will not admit what the Bible says on Judas, because it will upset your "theology!
The Father intends to save all whom Jesus died in the place of and for, as there will be none in hell whose sins have been atoned for!
 

SavedByGrace

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Sinners will be in hell with their sins atoned for then?

Jesus DIED for the entire human race, and the majority will be in hell. This does NOT mean, as reformed theology has wrognly put it, that Jesus' Death either failed, or was "wasted". The sinner must comply with God conditions of repentance and faith, and only then is the benefits of Jesus' Death/Blood, applied to them.
 

Yeshua1

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Jesus DIED for the entire human race, and the majority will be in hell. This does NOT mean, as reformed theology has wrognly put it, that Jesus' Death either failed, or was "wasted". The sinner must comply with God conditions of repentance and faith, and only then is the benefits of Jesus' Death/Blood, applied to them.
Lost sinners of and by themselves cannot do any of that though in order to get saved!
 

SavedByGrace

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Lost sinners of and by themselves cannot do any of that though in order to get saved!

and WHEN did I say that they did? The Holy Spirit FIRST has to convict the sinner, as John 16:1-8 teaches, and only then they can respond in either accepting, or rejecting!
 

AustinC

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All have sinned and fall short.
The wages of sin is death.
We were dead in our trespasses and sins.

God doesn't prevent anyone from hearing the gospel because everyone is dead in sins.
However, God does not choose to make everyone alive with Christ so that they can hear and respond to the gospel.
God is not obligated to make everyone alive.
 
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