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Why I will not accept Joe Biden as president

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  1. Revmitchell

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    Failure to accept God's ordained leader in a country is failure to obey God.

    Romans 13:1-2
    Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

    Rev, even if you buy in to the idea that the election was rigged and Joe Biden didn't get the electoral college votes, it is clear that God is giving the US Joe Biden as their President. You are subject to him as your President on January 20th and God calls you to submit to Biden's Presidency.
     
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    Tis a shame that your liberal friends (and perhaps you??) didn't heed this advice 4 years ago!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    we are to pray for God to direct Him as the new president, but also called to fight against his policies and agenda, just as we did those of Obama!
     
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    I did. Every person whom God has chosen to lead in government is placed there by God. Even those very wicked rulers like North Korea are there by God's ordination. President Trump was placed in that position by God, for a season. I thank God for the four years God ordained. I will continue to praise God for the future leadership and pray that God gives us peace. I know that my citizenship is in heaven. Therefore, I realize that my King rules over all the kingdoms of men and nothing that happens on earth will ever remove my citizenship with God. I am at peace.
     
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    We obey Christ first. We express to this nation the desires of our King and His righteousness. Whether the US follows that advice is something I can do little to change. May God change Joe Biden's heart so that he follows our King in the decisions he makes.
     
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    Agreed.

    There are two reasons I WILL accept Joe Biden as President.

    First, I am a Christian. Second, I am an American.

    And in that order.
     
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    God ordains them while they are there and advises us of no certain time limit. God can also depose them once they are there. If you imagine that God never uses men to depose earthly leaders, then we read different Bibles. Our own country has legal and historical precedent and means of dealing with corrupt leaders. You may not like that, yet God has so ordained.
     
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    I understand that God allows evil to destroy evil. God allowed many wicked kings in Israel and Judah. He allowed coups and wickedness to do His will (read Habakkuk).
    I try to do what Jeremiah advised and pray for the peace of the city in which I live while I am in exile.

    God is in full control. No worries.
     
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    On 6 Jan - the Joint Houses will open the the EC ballots - if Biden recieves at least 270 he will be the winner - period.
    Now there is speculation that some members may object to some of the votes - if that is the case - than that is another story - and it could hold up the EC vote. If, so then we take it a step at a time. - But Whomever, Congress declares the winner - He will be our President.
    But as Yeshua said:
    and yes we should stand up and fight poor policy decision!
     
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    Why Biden will not be President on Jan 20:

    Here is what we know right now as of the election in November. 

    Trump has court cases still pending that will go to the Supreme Court & thanks to TX case he now knows how to file it under article 3 not 2 that will force them to hear it. He has the DNI report on Friday. Barr steps down on the 23rd (can now be a witness—he did his job). Durham is now a special counsel (can prosecute in any state - the Bidens)

    He’s letting civil, criminal, federal courts fail to handle the situation properly so he can use military tribunals. He has the data (all of it) from NSA, the Kraken supercomputer, the Alice supercomputer, (probably a couple others we haven’t heard about yet, too).

    He has the dueling electors from 7 states legislatures.

    He has VP Pence as final arbiter of which ballots to accept on 1/6/20.

    He has the insurrection act. The NDAA, the national emergency, the 14th amendment, t

    He has the 2018 executive order allowing for rejection of the election based on Foreign interference which we now know is true, the 2017 very first EO, the Patriot Act, the FISA warrants, the possible Declassification of everything including Wikileaks. People swear affidavits will be by the 1,000,

    His code scan guy just needs access to some real ballots & he can detect if they are fake by looking for creases & printing items using his scanner technology.

    Trump has all the statistical data being analyzed, the videos, emails, phone calls, bank transfer statements showing the coordination of the coup which Zickerberg manned and Sorros funded

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    He has RICO, he has the crimes against humanity videos, Wikileaks just dropped a ton & Assange will be pardoned so he can talk about Seth Rich.

    Now that the governors and secretary of states certified & Biden accepted, they committed and knowingly agreed to treason.

    Solar Winds was just raided & Dominion is closing up shop. Same with politicians & media.

    Dominion serves 40% of the US market. It is in 30 states.

    – The state of Texas rejected the machines.

    – Admiral Peter Neffenger is on Biden’s transition team.

    – Peter Neffenger was the President and on the board of Smartmatic

    – Smartmatic entered into an agreement with Dominion in 2009

    – Smartmatic counted American votes in Venezuela

    – Smartmatic is connected to Philippine voter fraud

    – Smartmatic is run by Lord Mark Malloch Brown who works for George Soros.

    – Brown chairs the Boards of a number of non-profit boards including the Open Society Foundation,

    – Brown chairs the Centre for Global Development.

    – Open society of course is owned by George Soros

    – Smartmatic partnered with DLA Piper Global

    – Douglas C. Emhoff works at DLA Piper Global

    – Douglas C. Emhoff is Kamala Harris’s husband

    – Guess who owns part of Dominion? Blum Capital Partners, L.P

    – Guess who owns Blum Capital? Richard C. Blum

    Richard C. Blum is husband to Dianne Feinstein. The California senator who helped head impeachment efforts.

    Blum got much of his dirty money by buying thousands of foreclosed homes cheap during the Obama administration of families who lost their homes and turned them into Colony Homes

    – Nancy Pelosi’s husband is also an investor

    – An aide to Nancy Pelosi, Nadeam Elshami, was hired by the

    Dominion Voting Systems

    – Dominion Voting Systems is literally listed on the Clinton Foundation website.

    – “The DELIAN Project: Democracy through Technology” is the title of the page.

    – Georgia Governor Kemp purchased machines after Texas and Florida rejected them

    – Dominion Voting has a lobbyist named Jared Thomas

    • Mitt Romney (one of the vocal Rhino Republicans saying Trump should accept the election results) is a stockholder in Dominion

    – Jared Thomas was Governor Brian Kemp’s chief of staff and press secretary from 2012 to 2015

    – You must remember the Feinstein-Kavanaugh-Soros connections to understand the depth of all this

    – Debra Katz (Christine Ford’s lawyer) worked for George-Soros at the Open Society Foundation.

    – Debra Katz (Christine Ford’s lawyer) also worked at Project on Government Oversight (POGO).

    – POGO is funded by Soros’s Open Society Foundation.

    – POGO is the co-signer of the letter Diane Feinstein had on Kavanaugh.

    – Kamala Harris did not prosecute One-West Bank for fraud

    – Soros owned One West Bank.

    – Now you know why a woman who placed 7th in her state is a VP candidate

    He has the CIA servers from Germany used to change dominion machines, he will soon have access to the states machines too.

    He baited them to staying in DC so they can be inaugurated, oops arrested. Biden hasn’t accepted any transition money nor has Kamala given up her seat.

    The military has infiltrated Antifa & BLM & he has the financials. He knows exactly which politicians took Chinese & Soros money.

    He put in Miller & Watnick. If there were ever a maneuver that could be characterized as “unleashing the Kraken,” this is it: President Trump just pardoned Gen. Michael Flynn, who was framed and vilified by the corrupt, treasonous deep state because Flynn refused to betray his country and serve as Obama’s puppet.

    Flynn is now a free man, and all the efforts of the deep state to destroy him have failed. But that’s only a tiny slice of the real story unfolding here. The far bigger story is that Flynn is being put back into play at the DoD, working alongside Ezra Cohen-Watnick and Chris Miller (now the Secretary of Defense) to deploy all available DoD resources to take down deep state traitors and defend the American Republic against its domestic enemies.

    He just replaced Kissinger & Allbright on the National Security Advisory Board with his loyalists.

    The military has been flying more planes over America and to Gitmo for the first time in years.

    The navy just parked huge naval fleets on both coasts. The 82nd airborne is preparing for an operation (same group of Flynn & Donoghue).

    Things are falling into place. He has it all. He is just laying out the case, building the narrative. He knows he won & they cheated. He gave them the chance to fix things. They chose not to. Now they all go down.
     
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    Granted it’s between you and God how much you participate in the system here, whether only to pray and pay taxes, or to also vote, write representatives, attend townhalls, campaign for candidates, donate to certain efforts, lobby directly, run for office, or serve as a judge, lawyer, policeman, teacher, principal, janitor, researcher, bureaucrat, soldier, doctor, nurse, etc.

    But when you step outside that line and start dictating to others what they should do, then others have a say as well, a very direct one. And you may just find yourself out of line whether you admit it or not.
     
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    The irony is that so many who applauded Trump's appointment on Justice Barrett are now eating their words.

    Personally, I did applaud the choice of the Justice - BUT she is an originalist. Our laws offer checks and balances. Sometimes it works, other times it does not. Our Constitution has established a means not only of conducting national elections but ultimately of affirming a Presidential based not on the electors but on the affirmation of the EC certificates.

    It is not a matter of opening those ballots (receiving those certificates). Congress can still object to the legality of those certificates. But if they affirm the EC certificates than that affirmation makes all other issues mute.

    If the House affirms the EC certificates electing Joe Biden as President then a Christian has two choices - accept President Biden or disobey God. An American has two choices - accept President Biden or reject the United States Constitution. It is really that simple.

    From there one can reform systems, whine about results, look into state election processes....but come January 6 2020 we will have a President Elect.
     
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    What about when Biden and his supporters tell you that you cannot worship God in the manner God has ordained?
     
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    How many here are actively hoping for civil war? Certainly not me. Frankly, I do not believe the founders were justified in their rebellion against England. Yet, God used evil for His glory. Today, if there is another rebellion, it will not be a just cause. God may ordain it as a means of judging this wicked nation, but it cannot be justified.
     
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    It would be the same if a Republican President said that I cannot worship God in the manner God has ordained. The answer is given in the Church's answer when Rome forbade the Christian religion. I'd suspect it would result in a smaller but more Christian form of Christianity in America.
     
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    How have our brother's and sister's in China, North Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia and elsewhere acted? Do you realize that Christianity is growing in greater numbers in those places than it is in the US? China has more Christians than the US.
     
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    This is also the situation God used to grow the early Church. Not only that, but the effect of the government embracing Christianity resulted in the Roman Catholic Church. This brought a degree of secular liberty and peace as it diluted the Christian faith.

    Come to think about it, Roman Christianity seems to have a lot in common with Republican Christianity in that both are a blend of the Church and the World.
     
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    China has more of nearly everything than the US, or any other country, just due to population size.
     
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    If they are, it's for no good reason. Another activist Dem would hardly make the situation better.
     
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