I agree. There is no secular solution to the world's problems.
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Why I will not accept Joe Biden as president
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Some corrections in procedures and outcomes can be made, though some are temporary. That presidential pardon power is something else, as is the power to issue executive orders.
However, solving the problem of sin is not possible for man alone. And even if it were, he would first have to recognize there is a problem, then what the problem is.
But still do whatever is possible to fight back against polocies and agendas that dishonor God and hurt America!
True, but there are practical benefits from having some secular leaders over others!
Cheap shot here.....
So end result would be Joe sworn in still, but a lot of people get pay back down to them now?
How so?
I see it as a very applicable observation (perhaps you mean the shoe fits but you do not like the shoes).
Republicans Christians did not see Trump as being our Messiah, but we did appreciate that his deeds were much more in keeping with the agenda of God and the nations then either the prior or next president!
I never said Republicans viewed Trump as Messiah. I think you are confusing my posts with someone else's comments (you quoted me, not whoever said Republicans view Trump as a Christ).
You are correct on this, but still think that Trump would have been a much better choice for this nation moving forward.
I suspect whoever becomes President is the best choice for God's purposes. If God chooses Biden as President I am sure He has His reasons.
Christians and conservatives need conservative, Republican, politicians, to make a stand. We need Governors, and Senators to say no, we will not abide by this fraudulent election. Without that, any's individual reaction would just be 'rebellion'.
With that, we 'obey the powers that be'. We are first connected to our State. If our State says opposite what the Feds say, then we obey our State. And thus obey God in obeying the powers that be.
If one does not to obey the State, and instead decides to obey the Feds, then he isn't obeying the powers that be.
Christians need some politicians with some...guts...to stand. If they don't, if they are too scared for their job or position, then you can forget it.
Christians can be such cowards.
Quantrill
With that, we 'obey the powers that be'. We are first connected to our State. If our State says opposite what the Feds say, then we obey our State. And thus obey God in obeying the powers that be.
If one does not to obey the State, and instead decides to obey the Feds, then he isn't obeying the powers that be.
Christians need some politicians with some...guts...to stand. If they don't, if they are too scared for their job or position, then you can forget it.
Christians can be such cowards.
Quantrill
Please consider a different interpretation of Romans 13: 1-2. Our Lord instituted government authority and His Command refers to the office (institution) and not the person specific. Compared to those OT instances our Lord raised or lowered kings by name. No instance of that occurs in the NT including Revelation. Which is very relevant since Daniel's visions
describes the last several kingdoms as beasts.
World governments and political establishments are under the temporal power and authority of the “god of this world”. They are blind to God’s principles and refuse to answer to His authority (regardless of any of their claims):
Matthew 4: 8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
Colossians 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
2 Corthinians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them
In the Old Testament God had a physical Kingdom and He used this physical Kingdom for His Glory.
In the New Testament God has no physical Kingdom on earth but a Spiritual one. God is no longer raising and lowering kings or kingdoms. He has no physical, earthly interest in the Kingdoms and affairs on earth during our Age. Of course He knows exactly what will happen throughout the Church "time" but He influences none of it. Consider for a moment why God in the New Testament tells us to pray for those in human government authority? There is no command in the Old Testament similar to that. It is because He did not install them and He has no influence over any of them by His own Choice and His Own Righteous Principals. In this last time God works through individuals only, not governments nor populations. Governments have been given over by God to satan and satan has full control over them as the "god" of this world.
In the book of Daniel, God shows him a vision in which four beasts rise out of the sea (Daniel 7:1-26). These “beasts” correspond to world governments or empires. After them, Daniel sees a man, described as the “Ancient of Days”, setting up an everlasting government that eclipses all the ones prior.
How interesting that the final government is symbolized by Jesus Christ—while all the preceding ones are depicted as “beasts”. Daniel’s vision is just more evidence of an important lesson. In this church age (the last time) and until Christ’s Kingdom arrives to replace the ruler ship of "beasts", we exist in a world governed by satan.
https://www.jesussaidwhat.com/voting-citizenship-change
describes the last several kingdoms as beasts.
World governments and political establishments are under the temporal power and authority of the “god of this world”. They are blind to God’s principles and refuse to answer to His authority (regardless of any of their claims):
Matthew 4: 8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
Colossians 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
2 Corthinians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them
In the Old Testament God had a physical Kingdom and He used this physical Kingdom for His Glory.
In the New Testament God has no physical Kingdom on earth but a Spiritual one. God is no longer raising and lowering kings or kingdoms. He has no physical, earthly interest in the Kingdoms and affairs on earth during our Age. Of course He knows exactly what will happen throughout the Church "time" but He influences none of it. Consider for a moment why God in the New Testament tells us to pray for those in human government authority? There is no command in the Old Testament similar to that. It is because He did not install them and He has no influence over any of them by His own Choice and His Own Righteous Principals. In this last time God works through individuals only, not governments nor populations. Governments have been given over by God to satan and satan has full control over them as the "god" of this world.
In the book of Daniel, God shows him a vision in which four beasts rise out of the sea (Daniel 7:1-26). These “beasts” correspond to world governments or empires. After them, Daniel sees a man, described as the “Ancient of Days”, setting up an everlasting government that eclipses all the ones prior.
How interesting that the final government is symbolized by Jesus Christ—while all the preceding ones are depicted as “beasts”. Daniel’s vision is just more evidence of an important lesson. In this church age (the last time) and until Christ’s Kingdom arrives to replace the ruler ship of "beasts", we exist in a world governed by satan.
https://www.jesussaidwhat.com/voting-citizenship-change
well, I'm not going to accept China Joe as POTUS unless he can demonstrate that his goons didn't cheat in the election. All evidence points to the fact that they did.
Ummm . . . no:
Ummm . . . no:
Did you read the article I posted regarding the worship service and prophesying about Trump in the rally that was held a couple weeks back?
You may not be a part of that group, but there was a movie called "the Trump Prophecy" from this segment of quasi Christians.
God had a plan for King Ahab...[emoji2958][emoji6]
Thanks. My last sentence was incorrect.well, I'm not going to accept China Joe as POTUS unless he can demonstrate that his goons didn't cheat in the election. All evidence points to the fact that they did.
Ummm . . . no:
China is growing in Christianity at a faster rate than the early church grew. It is an amazing work of God.
Yes that would perhaps be the result but you did not say what you would do if Mr. Biden or those that support him mandated that you could not attend church.
Would you disobey and go to for example, a house church?
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