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799 Days Left Until the Two Witnesses of Revelation Appear in the Spring of 2023 AD

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    Future predictions[edit]
    21st century[edit]
    Date (CE) Claimant(s) Description Ref.
    2021 F. Kenton Beshore This American pastor bases his prediction on the prior suggestion that Jesus would return in 1988, i.e., within one biblical generation (40 years) of the founding of Israel in 1948. Beshore argues that the prediction was correct, but that the definition of a biblical generation was incorrect and was actually 70–80 years, placing the second coming of Jesus between 2018 and 2028, and the rapture by 2021 at the latest. [188]
    2026 Messiah Foundation International This spiritual organization predicts that the world will end in 2026, when an asteroid collides with Earth in accordance with Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi's predictions in his book The Religion of God. [189]
    2028 Kent Hovind While clarifying there is no way to be certain, this Christian fundamentalist evangelist speculated in 2015 that 2028 was the "most likely" date for the rapture. [190]
    22nd–23rd centuries[edit]
    Date (CE) Claimant(s) Description Ref.
    31 December
    2129 Said Nursî This Sunni Muslim theologian, author of the Risale-i Nur and founder of the Nur movement, wrote in a letter to one of his students (the 21st in the so-called Kastamonu Appendix) that by applying numerology to a hadith he had arrived at a date of 1545 for the arrival of doomsday. 1545 in the Hijri calendar would be 2122; in the Rumi calendar it would be 2129. Nursî added that this was not a definite prediction, as "nobody knows the time of doom in a strict manner". [191]
    2239 Talmud, Orthodox Judaism According to the Talmud in mainstream Orthodox Judaism, the Messiah will come within 6000 years of the creation of Adam, and the world may be destroyed 1000 years later. This would put the beginning of the period of desolation in 2239 and the end of the period of desolation in 3239. [3]
    2280 Rashad Khalifa According to this Egyptian-American biochemist's research on the Qu'ran, the world will end during that year.
     
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    Far future predictions[edit]
    See also: Timeline of the far future and Global catastrophic risk
    Estimated timeframe (years) Claimant(s) Description Ref.
    300,000 Peter Tuthill In approximately 300,000 years, WR 104, a triple star, is expected to explode in a supernova. It has been suggested that it may produce a gamma ray burst that could pose a threat to life on Earth should its poles be aligned 12° or lower towards Earth. However, spectroscopic observations now strongly suggest that it is tilted at an angle of 30°-40° and so any gamma ray burst should not hit Earth. [193]
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    1 million The Geological Society Within the next 1 million years, Earth will likely have undergone a supervolcanic eruption large enough to erupt 3,200 km3 of magma, an event comparable to the Toba supereruption 75,000 years ago. [195]
    100 million Stephen A. Nelson It is estimated that every 100 million years, Earth is hit by an asteroid about 10–15 km in diameter, comparable in size to the one that triggered the K–Pg extinction which killed non-avian dinosaurs 66 million years ago. [196]
    500–600 million Anne Minard A gamma ray burst or a massive, hyperenergetic supernova, would have occurred within 6,500 light-years of Earth, close enough for its rays to affect Earth's ozone layer and potentially trigger a mass extinction, assuming that the hypothesis of a previous such explosion triggering the Ordovician–Silurian extinction event is correct. However, the supernova would have to be precisely oriented relative to Earth to have any negative effect. [197]
    600–800 million Various The Sun's increasing brightness causes the rate of weathering of the planet's crust to increase. This will cause the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to drop dramatically, making photosynthesis in plants impossible. This will very likely cause a mega mass extinction of the Earth's vegetation. The lack of oxygen-producing plants will cause oxygen in the atmosphere to disappear as well as the ozone layer, making animal life impossible. Even if photosynthesis were still possible, rising surface temperatures from the brighter sun will make complex life (plants and animals) impossible. [198]
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    1–5 billion Various The estimated end of the Sun's current phase of development, after which it will swell into a red giant, either scorching or swallowing Earth, will occur around five billion years from now. However, as the Sun grows gradually hotter (over millions of years), Earth may become too hot for life as early as one billion years from now. [200]
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    1.6 billion Various It is estimated that all eukaryotic life will die out due to carbon dioxide starvation, with only prokaryotes remaining. [198]
    7.59 billion David Powell The Earth and the Moon will most likely be destroyed by falling into the Sun, just before the Sun reaches the largest of its red giant phase when it will be 256 times larger than its current size. Before the final collision, the Moon will possibly spiral below Earth's Roche limit, breaking into a ring of debris, most of which would fall to Earth's surface. [203]
    22 billion Various This is the end of the Universe in the Big Rip scenario, assuming a model of dark energy with w = −1.5. Observations of galaxy cluster speeds by the Chandra X-ray Observatory suggest that the true value of w is approximately −0.991, indicating the Big Rip would not occur. [204]
    10100 Various The time estimated for the heat death of the universe, a hypothetical event in which the universe would diminish to a state of no thermodynamic free energy, becoming no longer able to sustain directed motion or life.
     
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    No...not happening.
     
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    I believe prophecy teaches: Next event - the rapture; followed by the great tribulation; followed by the millennium/second coming of Christ.
     
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    I already knew that, but it has nothing to do with 'your prophecy'. It has to do with the 7th Seal.
     
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    That would mean that we are now in the 70th "week" of Daniel, would it not?
    I don't recall seeing a 7 year Middle East peace treaty being signed yet.
    They will prophesy for 3.5 years before being killed.
    Then they will lie in the streets of Jerusalem for roughly 3 days, after which the Lord will take them back up.
    I agree.
    It's much closer now than it was in 1948, for example.

    Look to Jerusalem.
    I'm not aware of any of this preparation being commanded by the Lord in His word...
    But yes, I agree that the coming 42 months ( after Anti-Christ commits the abomination of desolation ) will be far worse than anything currently experienced in the world until now.

    For example, the plagues of Egypt will pale in comparison.

    If you could point out to me the Scriptures which state that we should put aside 4 years worth of food and water, own my own home ( the governments can take away anything they wish, so owning anything won't stop them ) and relying on anything other than the Lord for my needs is declared, I would appreciate it.
     
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    Perhaps.
    But my best advice to my blessed brothers and sisters is the same that the Lord has already given them;

    Be ready for His coming and trust Him to deliver you out of all your trials and tribulations.
    He will preserve those who He has decided will be alive and remain until His coming.
    Amen.
     
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    There is no "7 year tribulation". The 70 weeks of Daniel have already been fulfilled entirely. It was Yeshua who confirmed his covenant with many with his death and resurrection, in the middle of the 70th week, 3 and 1/2 years after his anointing at the end of week 69. And then in the final 3 and 1/2 years of the 70th week the gospel was proclaimed in Jerusalem first, before it was proclaimed to the Gentiles. Which was the original context of the 70 weeks of Daniel, "70 weeks have been appointed for your people and set-apart city". The set-apart city is Jerusalem. And then, as the prophecy states, after the 70 weeks, Jerusalem and the temple would be destroyed by the 4th kingdom, which were the Romans. At that time the abomination of desolation was set up on the eastern wing of the temple, in accordance to Flavius Josephus, exactly as the prophet Daniel prophesied. This is why Yeshua told them that once they see the abomination of desolation at the temple site, to escape Judea, because it was about to be destroyed. The abomination of desolation is not a future prophecy, that too, was also fulfilled in the past. And that abomination of desolation was the image of Caesar that was established there at the temple, at the eastern wing of the temple, which was worshiped by the Roman soldiers.

    And after the sixty-two weeks, the Mashiach shall be cut off and shall have nothing. And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the set-apart place. Its end shall come like a flood, and to the end there shall be war. Desolations are decreed.… And on the wing shall come an abomination of desolation…
    Daniel 9:26-27

    So when you see standing at the set-apart place ‘the abomination of desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel, let the reader understand, then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.
    Matthew 24:15-20

    When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
    Luke 21:20-24

    He will exalt himself and defy everything that people call god and every object of worship. He will even tarry at the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God.
    2 Thessalonians 2:4

    Now Pilate, who was sent as procurator into Judea by Tiberius, sent by night those images of Caesar that are called ensigns into Jerusalem. This incited a very great tumult among the Jews when it was day, for those that were near them were astonished at the sight of them, since their laws were trodden under foot, for those laws do not permit any sort of image to be brought into the city.
    The Wars of the Jews by Flavius Josephus, Book 2, 9:2

    But now Pilate, the procurator of Judea, removed the army from Caesarea to Jerusalem, to take their winter quarters there, in order to abolish the Jewish laws. So he introduced effigies of Caesar, which were upon the ensigns, and brought them into the city, whereas our law forbids us the very making of images.
    The Antiquities by the Jews by Flavius Josephus, Book 18, 3:1

    The Romans upon the flight of the seditious into the city, and upon the burning of the set-apart house itself, and of all the buildings lying round about it, brought their ensigns to the Temple, and set them over against its eastern gate; and there did they offer sacrifices to them, and there did they make Titus imperator, with the greatest acclamations of joy
    The Wars of the Jews by Flavius Josephus, Book 6, 6:1

    For indeed the Roman religion is entirely martial, for they worship their ensigns, and swear by their ensigns, and pay greater respects to their ensigns more than to any other god whatsoever.
    Apologetic by Tertullian, Chapter 16

    And then Titus became emperor of Rome, and then after him came the Roman popes. Who have all been the little horn of the 4th beast of Daniel, which were the Roman popes. For that little horn grew in the context of the 4th kingdom, which was Rome. And they are the "antichrist". For antichrist in Greek means "false anointed". And they are also called the “man of lawlessness”. Which is the Greek word “anomia”, which is the antonym of the Greek word “nomia”, which means “law”. Which means the “man of torahlessness”, meaning a man that discards the Torah, for the word “law” in “lawless” pertains to the Torah of Moses, which is the “Law” of God. The antichrist is the succession of Roman authority occupied by one man in highest Roman authority in each of their respective times one after the other.

    They persecuted the people of God for 1,260 years, through inquisitions and massacres. One of the darkest times in human history. Many died. They also changed the appointed times of the Torah, such as changing the Shabbath to Sunday. And they also promulgated new appointed times like Christmas and Good Friday, which are contrary to the truth, for the Mashiach instructed us to commemorate his death, not his birth. For Yeshua already existed before he came in the flesh, and came to die to atone for the sins of many. An expression of love. So it is therefore his death that matters, not his birth. And the Mashiach did not die on Friday, for he died on a Wednesday before the high shabbath of the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. They also established a false priesthood, usurping the priesthood given only to the Levites, and also Yeshua, according to the order of Melchizedek. And the Roman popes have promulgated other false teachings like the trinity, that Mary is the Queen of Heaven and the mother of God, that the dead go to heaven and do not sleep, that hell currently exists and the dead burn there for all eternity, that men can pray to Mary and the saints, and more lies upon lies and blasphemies upon blasphemies. And also arrogant words. For the Roman popes have also claimed to be the authority and representation of God on the earth. Which are arrogant words in falsely declaring themselves to be what they are truly not. And everything they teach is contrary to the truth and the Torah of God. And they are even called “Holy Father” by many believers, which is preposterous and a title that belongs only to God. And in this way the Roman popes are the true and full manifestation of the antichrist on the earth.

    And now all that is left to be fulfilled is the last portion of the 6th seal of Revelation, which is the return of Yeshua, which will be in 5 years in the year 6,000. 7 and 1/2 days after his descension on the earth the 7 trumpets of Revelation will be blasted for 7 days, beginning in Tishri 1, in accordance to the Torah. Then in Tishri 10 the people of God will be gathered, at the sound of the great shofar. Then 5 days later in Tishri 15 the 7 plagues of Revelation will be poured on the earth, for 7 days. The people of God that were gathered will remain safe in Mount Zion in Israel during that time.

    As I said, none of you have understood these prophecies, which is why all of you are on a path of destruction. And more than likely you will not listen to the truth I am telling you, because you people are blind and stubborn. Just as the first generations of the sons of Israel were, who were cut off from inheriting the promised land. They were a stiff necked generation, just like you people.
     
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    I have but one thing to say about Gaviria's whole spiel:

    HORSE FEATHERS !
     
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    I agree.
    That actual time is 3.5 years, or 42 months.
    I disagree.
    I think you're mistaking the King of Kings for the prince who is to come.
    Since the Lord is the one who sets people on the path of salvation, understanding comes based on His work.
    His work is not, nor ever was dependent upon, our understanding or lack of it.

    In other words, the reason people are on the path to destruction is because God did not save them and give them the Holy Spirit by which they could both believe and discern His words.
    I urge you to read Matthew 24 and Mark 13 again, and look closely at all the things the Lord Jesus has to say;
    Pay careful attention to passages that have the phrase "immediately after the....", and perhaps you'll see the timing laid out.

    One more "week", and it's all over.
    He comes again, He sends forth His angels to gather His elect from the four winds and from every corner of Heaven, and then He takes His throne at Jerusalem for 1,000 years.
    It will get worse from here on out until it gets better for us as believers.

    But I trust that His perfect purposes will be carried out.:)
     
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    The two witnesses are the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. Revelation 11:v.4

    What does candlestick mean for you? What does candlestick mean in according Scriptures, the source of Truth?

    There is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets,...Daniel 2:v.28 - but who is the God of the earth? As is written, the two witnesses are the two candlesticks standing before him, before the God of the earth, who is him?

    It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: ... Prov.25:v.2
     
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    Not this nonsense again.....
     
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    He must be the same "prophet" who announced trump would be reelected!
     
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    If I had to pick an end time date I would go with the scientist, Isaac Newton...

    "And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half. " - Daniel 12:7

    From a folio cataloged as Yahuda MS 7.3g, f. 13v:

    "So then the time times & half a time are 42 months or 1260 days or three years & an half, reckoning twelve months to a year & 30 days to a month as was done in the Calendar of the primitive year. And the days of short lived Beasts being put for the years of lived kingdoms, the period of 1260 days, if dated from the complete conquest of the three kings A.C. 800, will end A.C. 2060." - Isaac Newton

    As Charlemagne was crowned king on December 25, 800 by Pope Leo the III so the day of Christ's coming will be on Christmas Day, 2060. If the rapture of the saints (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17) occurs seven years before the time of Christ’s coming the date of the rapture 12.25 2053. However… Isaac Newton notes

    "It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast." - Isaac Newton
     
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    No shortage of soapbox prophets & storefront Jesuses...
     
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    The discussions here are about Scriptures. Theories and misinterpretations about two witnesses have long been spread on Christian websites, they are very old, so old as the old false New Testament prophets.

    The two witnesses are the two CANDLESTICKS standing before the God of the earth. Revelation 11:v.4

    What does candlestick mean for you? What does candlestick mean in according Scripture, the source of Truth?

    There is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets,...Daniel 2:v.28 - but who is the God of the earth?

    As is written, the two witnesses are two candlesticks standing before him, before the God of the earth, who is him?

    It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: ... Prov.25:v.2

    By the way, if you think the two witnesses are Moses and Elyjah, or Elyjah and Enoch, or Moses and Enoch, you are completely wrong, they are already in heaven for millennia-Revelation chapter 4 and 5. By the Word of God, as was revealed by JESUS, if you believe in Him, Candlesticks are not persons.
     
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    Preterism is a beautiful thing.
     
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    Yes, for those with big imaginations & not much knowledge of history or the true meanings of many prophetic Scriptures.
     
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    Why do you not answer my post? We should already know one witness. John wrote the book of Revelation as a witness. It was not a series of visions. John is here now being a witness of the book of Revelation.


    The two witnesses die on the 5th (Wednesday), and are resurrected early Sunday morning, the 9th; the Same Wednesday to Sunday morning time frame as Jesus. This is the last 4 days of the sound of the 7th Trumpet. Yom Kippur starts on Monday the 10th. Those are the dates of the online calendar I use.

    The 42 months start halfway through Wednesday on 14 Nisson 2023. The April event is supposed to be 8 days from Sunday to Sunday. This is the sounding of the 7th Trumpet. But the week is cut in half if Satan is allowed 42 months.


    The 3 days these two witnesses lay dead in Jerusalem, God pours out the 7 vials of wrath on the earth. After the literal one hour battle of Armageddon with the 10 kings joining Satan, all of Adam's flesh will be dead, and the 7th Trumpet stops sounding. Monday is the start of the 1000 year reign of Christ. People are placed on the earth in the resurrection of Revelation 20:4.
     
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