IDo you believe Matthew 7:15-20 and Luke 6:43-45?
What does it mean that these Pentecostals bring forth Good Fruit? (People are healed. People are saved. Jesus is praised. God is glorified.)
Addressing Matthew 7:15-20 but in the context of that message in Matthew 7:13-29
Jesus said this in His authority in Matthew 7:28-29 about how those who do not hear His sayings & apply them are liken to a house on sand for why many are fallen; hence the believers that are falling in these movements of the "spirit" per Matthew 7:24-27 where in this same movements of the spirit, wonderful things has been done in His name per Matthew 7:21-23
Now addressing your reference but starting at the beginning of this warning to the churches in Matthew 7:13-14 on how this iniquity will come by broadening the way in the worship place by including the worship of the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son as if the only way to worship God the Father is too narrow to do by just worshiping the Son in order to worship the Father.
Now your reference.. Matthew 7:15-20 Citing an example... although modern day tongue speakers believe in another baptism with the Holy Ghost with evidence of tongues ... they do not believe slain in the spirit or the holy laughter movement is of God, BUT those phenomenon comes by the claim they are receiving the Holy Sprit again apart from salvation. One report from another Christian forum has one involved in all of that apostasy gloated that a tongue speaker try to stop it, but fell. That is how you apply Matthew 7:15-20. No good tree would produce a bad fruit. No bad tree can produce a good fruit. If tongues for private use came by receiving the Holy Spirit again apart from salvation, then it has to be a bad fruit since the other more confusing phenomenon ( bad fruit ) came from receiving what they believe was the Holy Ghost again apart from salvation.
Hence receiving anything from the bad tree of receiving what they believe is the Holy Spirit again apart from salvation is going to be all bad fruit. The way of receiving the bad fruit is from that bad tree & that bad tree is the lie that you can receive the Holy Spirt again apart from salvation. So if all those crazy phenomenon in slain in the spirit & holy laughter movement are bad fruits coming from that bad tree, then so is tongues without interpretation as gibberish nonsense & thus assumed for private use is a bad fruit.
A pastor of a church one time told me that there are 3 baptisms of the Holy Ghost as per the book he was reading but he goes on to tell me that he believes there are five. This same pastor told me that all Catholics are going to hell. I point out to him that there is such a thing as Catholic Charismatic church & they speak in tongues ( meaning the bad kind the pastor was related to, not the real God's gift of tongues which is a foreign language to speak unto the people ) and then that pastor quickly changed his judgment and said maybe some of them are saved too.
That is the ecumenical fruit of the false prophet in Matthew 7:16 in that Catholics can do it.. Baptists can do it... every sinner in the world can do it, and yet for all of that manifestations, the Catholics still remain in Catholicism... go figure. Nothing has changed other than to gather workers of iniquity together by those phenomenon & not to the Son in fellowship.
That is all they walk away from is that phenomenon in serving that phenomenon & pointing others to come here for that phenomenon.. that is not the same as pointing to Jesus Christ in seeking His glory but rather the glory of that phenomenon when you point to that phenomenon for the receiving of those things.
[PS. I was not glorifying NBLC, I was offering a John 3:11]
But you were testifying of this happening at NBLC. That's sending an invitation to go there to experience the same thing. If you really believe this was happening by coming to Jesus Christ in prayer, why is it that for this to happen at the NBLC, they have to be in the mind set of receiving the Holy Spirit again apart from salvation which is another calling & another gospel?
2 Corinthians 11:1Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me. 2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. KJV
Not sure how you can convince me that you are heeding that warning from Paul.
