SavedByGrace
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Then you should know when you say universal redemption you are saying you are a universalist.
Please don't talk nonsense
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Then you should know when you say universal redemption you are saying you are a universalist.
You know, there are some of you who are certain you have the "right" answer. Do you really think you have the mind of God? Do you really know what God thinks? Didn't he say that his ways were higher than our ways, his thoughts were beyond our thoughts? Yes, there are things that are written in the Bible...however, it's not everything. So, instead of making pronouncements regarding what God does or does not do, admit that you just really don't know.
Also, regarding infants. There is an age of accountability, where one is aware of sinning. Is an infant capable of that?
Please don't talk nonsense
I believe babies go to Heaven because babies need a Savior too, just like I do, but I also believe, in their form in Heaven they won't be babies and if you look at the scene in Revelation 7, show me a baby?... There are no infants in Heaven only saved saints... Brother Glen
Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
7:10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
Then you should know when you say universal redemption you are saying you are a universalist.
Did you read what he actually said?And how do you conclude from the term multitude that it does not include babies and children? Your belief that babies will be in heaven is based on what Scriptures
You might want to go read that entry again, you left out some important details.exagorazo does not signify the actual "redemption," but the price paid with a view to it, lutroo signifies the actual "deliverance," the setting at liberty. W e Vine Expository Dictionary
I think we need to be careful with this. Is there Scripture to back this up?Elect infants dying in infancy will be saved.
You might want to go read that entry again, you left out some important details.
Elect infants dying in infancy will be saved.
There is the exact same amount of scriptural support for the statement, “all infants dying in infancy are elect and will be saved”.Elect infants dying in infancy will be saved.
Would say that the LORD, as in God the Father, would choose to apply effectual saving grace towards infants....Other than David's comment about his son, there is no definitive comment about infants and what happens after their body dies.
Does God extend grace to infants who are born corrupt with a sin nature?
Psalm 51:5
Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.[/I]
I prefer latter choice as fitting the revealed nature of God to us!There is the exact same amount of scriptural support for the statement, “all infants dying in infancy are elect and will be saved”.
peace to you
I believe that as well, but acknowledge very little scripture concerning this specific issue.I prefer latter choice as fitting the revealed nature of God to us!
And there we find the core of your argument.
They need a crutch to fall on.Why do you keep bringing up Reformed Theology instead of actually dealing with the topic and arguments presented to you? That shows a clear bias that just because someone holds to a Reformed Soteriology that you must reject everything they say on every topic. Yet you have the audacity to say we are the ones blinded by our theology....
You admit to being a universalist.I have said this before to you, you are not forced to comment on my threads nor respond to what I say. You must know by now that I am 100% universal redemption which I fully believe to be what the Bible Teaches. Please don't make your rather childish remarks just because you don't agree with the Truth of the Bible on salvation
Reformed is dead on. You are attempting to have semantic split ends to your hair, but the bottom line is you teach Pelagian theology and universalism, two doctrines rejected by the church.Please don't talk nonsense