1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Featured God and free will

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Hobie, Apr 10, 2021.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Saving grace only sent towards the Elect!
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  2. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Only the sheep hear his voice, not the goats!
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  3. MB

    MB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2006
    Messages:
    6,890
    Likes Received:
    262
    Faith:
    Baptist
    An invitation isn't a demand it's the offer of a choice and you know it but you'll deny it in favor of false doctrines.
    MB
     
  4. MB

    MB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2006
    Messages:
    6,890
    Likes Received:
    262
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Absolute bull
    MB
     
  5. Brightfame52

    Brightfame52 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2020
    Messages:
    3,367
    Likes Received:
    560
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I see no relevance at all in this comment..
     
  6. MB

    MB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2006
    Messages:
    6,890
    Likes Received:
    262
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Those who blind them selves with false doctrines can't see the truth.
    MB
     
  7. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    God send saving grace towards the Goats?
     
  8. AustinC

    AustinC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2020
    Messages:
    10,911
    Likes Received:
    1,458
    Faith:
    Baptist
    You condemn yourself with your own words.
     
  9. MB

    MB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2006
    Messages:
    6,890
    Likes Received:
    262
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Since when is believing in Christ condemnation? Your judgement of me is with out authority. LOL You can't prove what you claim with scripture so now you condemn me for telling you the truth. This seems very hypocritical of you.
    MB
     
  10. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    How much of our "free will" has been affected by the fall?
     
  11. atpollard

    atpollard Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2018
    Messages:
    4,714
    Likes Received:
    1,174
    Faith:
    Baptist
    That is "no will".
    We have a "fallen will" until Christ frees us.
     
  12. MB

    MB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2006
    Messages:
    6,890
    Likes Received:
    262
    Faith:
    Baptist
    no scripture just your say so?
    MB
     
  13. atpollard

    atpollard Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2018
    Messages:
    4,714
    Likes Received:
    1,174
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Where is the "you have "free will untainted by sin" scripture or the "we are mindless robots" scripture?
    Why do I earn such special treatment?

    (PS: Yes, there is scripture and I am surprised that you do not know that men have been tainted by the fall of Adam and our sin.) :Cool
     
  14. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    All died in Ada in the Fall, so both spiritually and physically death!
     
  15. Brightfame52

    Brightfame52 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2020
    Messages:
    3,367
    Likes Received:
    560
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Sounds like to me you talking about yourself friend.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  16. AustinC

    AustinC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2020
    Messages:
    10,911
    Likes Received:
    1,458
    Faith:
    Baptist
    You wrote:
    You judged yourself.
     
  17. AustinC

    AustinC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2020
    Messages:
    10,911
    Likes Received:
    1,458
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I have been to Ada, Michigan. People live there.
     
  18. utilyan

    utilyan Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2016
    Messages:
    5,149
    Likes Received:
    293
    Don’t get sanctimonious with me, It is a “blasphemy” you don’t recognize 100% standard human is Jesus Christ.

    heres your choice. Full human = zero free will
    Jesus has no free will.

    has free will then obviously not human
     
  19. utilyan

    utilyan Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2016
    Messages:
    5,149
    Likes Received:
    293
    The fact you argue against us having free will is solid proof you don’t believe your own story.

    suppose I truly believed. How would I possibly be upset when someone tells me the contrary?How can I fault them when they have no say where are authored by God fated by God To say what they are saying.

    If I had a problem with what they are saying I take it up with God rather than them who had no choice in the matter.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  20. AustinC

    AustinC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2020
    Messages:
    10,911
    Likes Received:
    1,458
    Faith:
    Baptist
    LOL, you seem oblivious to what the term "incarnation" means when God became man.

    As you have been often told:
    Adam had free will. Adam chose sin. The curse of the fall brought with it the incapacity of sinful, corrupt, human will to choose themselves back into perfect relationship with God. (If humans could...they would not need a Savior.)
    Jesus came into the earth as the 2nd Adam. He has no corruption in Him. He has free will to choose God (as a human) and fully obey God. Being fully God, he also has the capacity to Redeem everyone the Father has given to him.

    You cheapen Jesus and treat him as though he was a corrupt human made in your image.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Loading...