1689Dave
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God threatened them with this and more, time and again. They hate God (Jesus) and exist as a body only for that reason. The Real Israel believed in Christ and remained as the church till this day.
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Are the British Empire & the USA in prophecy?
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1689Dave
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There is only one race, the human race. It's a false religion today.
1689Dave
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God placed them under His wrath until the end of the world.
Change "real" to "spiritual" & you'll be right.
MMRRPP! WRONG!
You see my pic in my posts. Do I look as George Floyd did, except we both shaved our heads? Do I look like Kim Jong-Un? Do I look like the man on the obverse of the buffalo nickel? Do I look like NBC newsman Jose Diaz-Balart?
Floyd's daughter has dark brown skin & very-curly hair. My sons have beige skin & straight hair.North Korea's Kim Il-Sung had yellowish skin. His son, Kim Jong-Il, was the same skin tone as his father. His grandson Kim Jong-Un, has the same skin tone as his dad & granddad.
Now, tell everyone here again there aren't human races.
Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went. And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes. Ezek 36:22,23
Does anyone believe that had taken place?
What exactly is it the heathen (nations, Gentiles) see by which God is sanctified? Is it not their re-gathering and their re-birth by the Holy Spirit?
Why do you think there is, a day, of holy convocation, called the day of first-fruits, the feast of first-fruits? Why first fruits? Why not just fruits? Feast of fruits. Why put first in front of the word fruits. First-fruits of what? Spirit, Romans 8:23. What will having that first-fruits of spirit, the Spirit of adoption, do for one? Is it not this? Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. ----- Is that the same thing mas this?> Romand 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. ------ Does that take place at the same moment as the following? 1 Cor 15:23 YLT and each in his proper order, a first-fruit Christ, afterwards those who are the Christ's, in his presence,
Passover = Behold the Lamb of God that taketh away the sin of the world. 14th Christ dies on the cross
15th a day of holy convocation - 1st day of unleavened Christ is dead in the tomb
16th Christ is dead in the tomb
17th on, in, after the third day, Christ is made alive out of the dead, regenerated.
21st a day of holy convocation 7th day of unleavened. We have been unleavened. 1 Cor 5:7,8 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. - Raised, because of, our justification.
Therefore let us keep the feast (of unleavened bread) Paul says, yet we say that was for Israel not the church. What think ye?
On the day after the weekly sabbath following the death of the Passover Lamb, the day of first-fruits of the spirit. Even we who have the first-fruits of the Spirit groan within ourselves. A term used relative to desiring to be born.
Phil 2:10,11
Pride
Does anyone believe that had taken place?
What exactly is it the heathen (nations, Gentiles) see by which God is sanctified? Is it not their re-gathering and their re-birth by the Holy Spirit?
Why do you think there is, a day, of holy convocation, called the day of first-fruits, the feast of first-fruits? Why first fruits? Why not just fruits? Feast of fruits. Why put first in front of the word fruits. First-fruits of what? Spirit, Romans 8:23. What will having that first-fruits of spirit, the Spirit of adoption, do for one? Is it not this? Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. ----- Is that the same thing mas this?> Romand 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. ------ Does that take place at the same moment as the following? 1 Cor 15:23 YLT and each in his proper order, a first-fruit Christ, afterwards those who are the Christ's, in his presence,
Passover = Behold the Lamb of God that taketh away the sin of the world. 14th Christ dies on the cross
15th a day of holy convocation - 1st day of unleavened Christ is dead in the tomb
16th Christ is dead in the tomb
17th on, in, after the third day, Christ is made alive out of the dead, regenerated.
21st a day of holy convocation 7th day of unleavened. We have been unleavened. 1 Cor 5:7,8 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. - Raised, because of, our justification.
Therefore let us keep the feast (of unleavened bread) Paul says, yet we say that was for Israel not the church. What think ye?
On the day after the weekly sabbath following the death of the Passover Lamb, the day of first-fruits of the spirit. Even we who have the first-fruits of the Spirit groan within ourselves. A term used relative to desiring to be born.
Phil 2:10,11
Pride
1689Dave
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Real Israel is spiritual Israel, circumcised in heart (born-again). God removed the physical unbelievers when he abolished circumcision.
1689Dave
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The bible does not teach racism. People inbreed and have different traits, but they are members of the human race. "One blood"
“And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;” Acts 17:26 (KJV 1900)
NO! NO! NO! Only until the end of the AGE - the Old Covenant age which finally ended with the destruction of all the manifestations of the Old Covenant in AD 70.
The Gospel was and is freely open to them.
1689Dave
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There are ONLY 2 ages in scripture. This evil age and the sinless age to come. Paul says they remain under wrath until the end. “[ the Jews] Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost [the end].” 1 Thessalonians 2:16 (KJV 1900)
“forbidding us to speak to the nations that they might be saved, to fill up their sins always, but the anger did come upon them—to the end!” 1 Thessalonians 2:16 (YLT)
But there's still physical Israel. And how does God consider Israel, despite their national sin?
Zech. 2:8For thus says the Lord of hosts: “He sent Me after glory, to the nations which plunder you; for he who touches you touches the apple of His eye.
While all who die unsaved are lost, God still holds the Israeli people in esteem. They're still His favorites. Remember, the foundations of the New Jerusalem will bear the names of the 12 tribes.
Rev. 21:12 12 Also she had a great and high wall with twelve gates, and twelve angels at the gates, and names written on them, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: 13 three gates on the east, three gates on the north, three gates on the south, and three gates on the west.
All dogs & wolves are canines. But do they look alike? Act alike? Can they live in the same climates? Of course not. The different kinds of canines are called breeds. In people, they're called races. Canines are of one blood also, but are very diverse in appearance & traits. To a lesser degree, so are people.
Our Siberian husky is of a distinct breed. So are the Jews & the other Israelis. Get that through your head.
The Old Covenant actually ended with Jesus' resurrection. The events of 66-70 AD were the "days of vengeance" Jesus pronounced against that generation of Jews. A much-greater punishment came upon the Jews for the rejection & murder of Jesus, beginning in 135-136 mAD when Hadrian & Co. booted them out of their land. This punishment continued for over 1800 years, likely due to their continued rejection of Jesus as Messiah, culminating in the nazi holocaust. During all this, the Jews kept their national ID, unlike the rest of Israel. But after that, God lifted their national earthly punishment despite their continued rejection of Jesus in order to begin fulfilling the end-time prophecies. this began with the Jews having a sovereign nation again in their own land, & continued when they moved their capital back to Jerusalem. All this should be obvious to any student of Biblical prophecy.
1689Dave
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They call themselves Israel but they are not. They hate Jesus and exist for that reason. Real Israel accepted Him. Believing Gentiles are now part of that body.
1689Dave
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So What? You are saying religion is a race when scripture nowhere says this.
No, the Israelis are a race, same as Indians or blacks.
If you don't like that term, try "ethnic group".
Now, JUDAISM is a religion, not the Jews. While most Jews follow Judaism, some follow Christianity or some other religion. Even if they're Bhuddists, they're still Jews by race. (ethnicity)
1689Dave
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But, people become Jews by adopting their religion.
“And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king’s commandment and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them.” Esther 8:17 (KJV 1900)
That was before the time of Jesus. But they didn't become RACIAL Jews. Sammy Davis Jr. was called a Jew by some after he took up Judaism. But racially, he remained a black. He was a Judaist.
1689Dave
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How many of Abraham's seed were related to him? They numbered 318 plus their families. But only Ishmael was his blood relative in the community.