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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Van, Jul 13, 2021.

  1. Van

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    Scripture tells us (believers in God) to not use our Lord's name in vain. (Exodus 20:7) A common practice, at least in the recent past, was to avoid the appearance of violation but saying something else. Gosh Dag, Julius Caesar, and other substitutes. But was this effort also in vain? Yes.

    Putting our tongue in gear, no matter the utterance, in a rote manner in response to pain, surprise, frustration reflects a lack of self control, and indicates yet another avenue to grow more Christ-like.

    Colossians 3:8 But now you also, put them all aside: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and abusive speech from your mouth.

    1Timothy 4:12 Let no one look down on your youthfulness, but rather in speech, conduct, love, faith and purity, show yourself an example of those who believe.

    Ephesians 5:4 and there must be no filthiness or foolish talk, or vulgar joking, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks
     
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    How about the term, horse feathers? Is there a hidden meaning there?
     
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    I've used "Good Night" over the years for an interjection.
     
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    Yeah, it must refer to that flying horse in greek mythology.
     
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    Maybe you ought to start sleeping in the day time.
     
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    I do. Due to health issues, I sleep around the clock in 90 to 120-minute increments.
     
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    Sounds like they have you on Gabapentin. That will knock you out and make you weak. If so, speak to your doctor.
     
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    Good Golly my bad :)
    The internet claims horse feathers is a euphemism for horse dung meaning nonsense, so pretty much twaddle.

    People who treat others (neighbors) will respect do not use vulgar or irreligious terms so as to not offend others. But in the post Christian era, the cultural norm is to be offensive, play your music so loud it bothers others, and portray religious people as either dullards or sexual predators. The war on freedom of religion is in full swing, and our Christian culture is being destroyed.
     
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    Lol, I remember when I was three or four Mom explaining to me why we couldn't say sh*t anymore.
     
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    Nope, it's a combination of congestive heart failure and other stuff.
     
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    Sorry to hear that. Add you to prayer list. God bless
     
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    Van has a point, once you start with the profanity…. But it is a fallen world.
     
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    Lol, my fallen parents nipped it in the bud, they stopped saying it too (at least around us kids).
     
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    The thing is we are not supposed to stop verbalizing it, we are to stop thinking it, but rather something like, "thanks for the lesson" such that we grow wiser, not more vulgar.
     
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    I suppose that they were trying to set an example. So did my parents but I always saw it as a tad bit hypocritical. Go try working in the NYC construction trades then see how you speak its a challenge.
     
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    But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death. Do not be deceived, my beloved brothers.

    For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy,

    See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.
     
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    I see two issues here. The first is using the Lord’s name in vain. The second is unseemly, crude, filthy language.

    I don’t see “horse feathers” as violation of either standard.

    Christians get frustrated like everyone else and can say things to relieve tension or stress. Sometimes the words are humorous and it has the same impact of relieving stress or expressing frustration.

    I suppose the intentions of the heart are the final judge, and God only knows that.

    peace to you
     
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    Good for them. That's where "ouch," pardon my French, I meant "ow", came from, donchaknow. :Wink I started to say, "Oops" over the mistake but nipped it in the bud just in time. I swear, it seems there's just no end to it. :Wink
     
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    On a more serious note, I don't know what they did in the moment, and I'll not be one to judge in this matter, but I've read what some truly spiritual men did after being severely beaten—they praised God, even prayed and sang hymns (cf. Acts 16:22-25). So if you really want to be spiritual about this, you might consider practicing using more minor things by training yourself to "shout to the Lord." Couldn't hurt.
     
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