Featured Is "unicorns" better than "unicorn" at Deut. 33:17?

Yes. But making a false premise does not support your point. Or else your point is false too.

Without the New Testament documents we have no Christianity.

The issue of this thread is over the fact the KJV translators took the liberty of translating the Hebrew singular as a plural to make the passage work being translated as a unicorn. A unicorn in concept only having one horn, not two. Horns of a unicorn. Re: Deuteronomy 33:17.

I use the KJV as my primary Bible translation. But I personally find the KJ-Onlyism untenable. Now if you want to hold that view to me, it is as bad or worse as using the modern critical text Bibles. It amounts to an attack on God's word. Though you intend it to defind God's word as do the promoters of the critical text Bibles.

 

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You are way over my head on this one. I don't know what you are arguing. I sure thought that Christians teach that the foundation of Christianity is our Lord Jesus Christ himself.

May I suggest you stop "using" the KJV and start believing it. You are using it on this forum to attempt to prove it is not true. It is the craziest thing I have ever seen. One can just be glad that hard core sinners don't show up on these kinds of websites and see what "Christians" think about their bibles. If they did show up here they would have enough sense to know that a continual line of new bibles is evidence you don't believe any of them. They would probably agree with you about that.

 

May I suggest had you done that yourself, you would know KJ-Onlyism is error.

 

Remember that I quoted Isa 55 saying the ways of God are not our ways? Somehow the KJV translators knew the ways of God and you do not. I know his ways, at least in an instance like this. I know that Joseph is a single person and his sons are a plural. I know Joseph's glory is pictured as a 1st born bullock and his sons Ephraim and Manasseh are pictured as the horns of unicorns, because they are of Joseph and are manifest as receiving his two parts of the land.

16 And for the precious things of the earth and fulness thereof, and for the good will of him that dwelt in the bush: let the blessing come upon the head of Joseph, and upon the top of the head of him (Joseph) that was separated from his brethren.

17 His (Joseph's) glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his (two) horns are like the (two) horns of (two) unicorns (uni. get it): with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they (the ones like the unicorns) are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.

It is so simple. This is typical prophetic teaching about Joseph, who received a double portion of the inheritance of the land grant. Joseph is a type of Jesus Christ and the northern nation of Israel is called Ephraim. The people in this passage are this nation.


God uses this kind of typology from the front of his book to the end. It is his way. You must acknowledge it and interpret his words in this context.

Hebrews 3:10
Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.

This is said about two generations of Israel. You do not know the ways of God, and neither does your bible translators.

 

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You are not getting the prophesy and the typology that God is employing here. He uses terminology that is intended to apply the characteristics of a physical entity that the reader is familiar with to teach a prophetic reality that is sure to have a demonstrable fulfillment sometime in the future.

You have commented on the supposed error but you have not commented on the prophesy. We would have a much clearer view of this verse if we could examine how it was fulfilled, if you believe it has been fulfilled already.

I think I have some insight on it but I will save my commentary until you have had a chance to respond.

 

This passage should settle the matter once and for all and we should be able to see that a unicorn in the eyes of God has only one horn.

Psa 92:1 ¶ « A Psalm [or] Song for the sabbath day. » [It is a] good [thing] to give thanks unto the LORD, and to sing praises unto thy name, O most High:
2 To shew forth thy lovingkindness in the morning, and thy faithfulness every night,
3 Upon an instrument of ten strings, and upon the psaltery; upon the harp with a solemn sound.
4 For thou, LORD, hast made me glad through thy work: I will triumph in the works of thy hands.
5 O LORD, how great are thy works! [and] thy thoughts are very deep.
6 A brutish man knoweth not; neither doth a fool understand this.


7 ¶ When the wicked spring as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish; [it is] that they shall be destroyed for ever:
8 But thou, LORD, [art most] high for evermore.
9 For, lo, thine enemies, O LORD, for, lo, thine enemies shall perish; all the workers of iniquity shall be scattered.
10 But my horn shalt thou exalt like [the horn of] an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.
11 Mine eye also shall see [my desire] on mine enemies, [and] mine ears shall hear [my desire] of the wicked that rise up against me.
12 The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree: he shall grow like a cedar in Lebanon.
13 Those that be planted in the house of the LORD shall flourish in the courts of our God.
14 They shall still bring forth fruit in old age; they shall be fat and flourishing;
15 To shew that the LORD [is] upright: [he is] my rock, and [there is] no unrighteousness in him.
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Psa 92:10 But my horn <07161> shalt thou exalt <07311> (8686) like [the horn of] an unicorn <07214>: I shall be anointed <01101> (8804) with fresh <07488> oil <08081>.

De 33:17 His glory <01926> [is like] the firstling <01060> of his bullock <07794>, and his horns <07161> [are like] the horns <07161> of unicorns <07214>: with them he shall push <05055> (8762) the people <05971> together <03162> to the ends <0657> of the earth <0776>: and they [are] the ten thousands <07233> of Ephraim <0669>, and they [are] the thousands <0505> of Manasseh <04519>.

This is a single person in Psa 92 and the reason for the reference to the horn of the unicorn is to highlight the singular horn, who in this case is the Lord Jesus Christ in the millennium.

If one is using the unicorn type and he needs to have more than one horn on the unicorn, then he must have more than one unicorn. This he did in Deut 33:17 and he tells us the names of the unicorns. They are Ephraim and Manasseh.

How simple is this? Don't have God refer to you as a fool. (see verses 5 and 6)

The KJV translators were consistent in their translation

Nu 23:22 God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn <07214>.
Nu 24:8 God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn <07214>: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce [them] through with his arrows.
De 33:17 His glory [is like] the firstling of his bullock, and his horns [are like] the horns of unicorns <07214>: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they [are] the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they [are] the thousands of Manasseh.
Job 39:9 Will the unicorn <07214> be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?
Job 39:10 Canst thou bind the unicorn <07214> with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?
Ps 22:21 Save me from the lion’s mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns <07214>.
Ps 29:6 He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn <07214>.
Ps 92:10 But my horn shalt thou exalt like [the horn of] an unicorn <07214>: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.
Isa 34:7 And the unicorns <07214> shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.

07214 ראם rᵉ’em [reh-ame’] or
ראים rᵉ’eym [reh-ame’] or
רים reym [rame] or
רם rem [rame

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AV-unicorn 9; 9

1) probably the great aurochs or wild bulls which are now extinct. The exact meaning is not known.

 

Now you are getting silly and quoting women preachers. You refuse to answer what the prophesy in Duet 33:17 is referring to, a point that would shed light on this conversation and you are actually suggesting that the unicorn of Psalm 92 has two horns in a context that is dealing with the person of Jesus Christ after his second coming. The reason the unicorn is chosen to typify Jesus Christ in Psa 92 is because of the one horn.

You are showing desperation and a refusal to be corrected.

Psalms 92:1
A Psalm or Song for the sabbath day. It is a good thing to give thanks unto the LORD, and to sing praises unto thy name, O most High:

The millennium is a sabbath rest. It is the seventh day of the week of one thousand year days of God, after he has spent the first six days in his work of redemption. I doubt that you know this but only born again subjects will enter the righteous kingdom rest of Jesus Christ, who is then King over all the earth. Jesus said unless a man is born again he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

There is reason and purpose for God choosing the unicorn to picture this rule. It is because he has only one horn. Unicorns have one horn and the women are wrong.

 

You are practicing hypocrisy. You have rules for the KJV believer while affording complete editorial liberty for the creators of dynamic equivalent translators, condensed versions, paraphrases and the like. You are conflicted, which makes your counsel worthless.

 

Or you have been captured by Onlyism and made an idol.

 

And maybe not.

Did you know that beginning at the very start of the third millennium of human history as recorded in Ge 15, for the first time we are introduced to God by his name of Adonay Jehovah and this person is Jesus Christ who is personified from that time until now as “ the word of the LORD?” Therefore, when the scriptures says the word of the LORD came to someone we know it was a person who came to them and that person was Jesus.

The distinction between the Godhead in the work of redemption is clearly apparent in the scriptures. His Revelation is exact and his words precise. In the Beginning of this age John, his apostle, Called him the Word and God in the same sentence. The designation of Jesus Christ as “the word of the Lord” is still maintained in the NT in the KJV. I therefore am worshipping Jesus Christ who has power and motivation to preserve the words that he has given throughout history and men of every age will accept or reject the same revelation of God.

Your cavalier approach to the word of God and influencing others to approach it in the same way is wrong.