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Featured Calvinism Fact Sheet #3, by Joel Barnes: Limited Atonement ( Jesus Actually Saves)

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    The positive effect of Christ dying, giving of Himself, or offering of Himself for those He did for, is actual absolute redemption from all iniquity Titus 2:14

    14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

    The word that, the conjunction hina which means:

    in order that, so that, in order that (denoting the purpose or the result

    So His giving of Himself produces redemptive results, which God purposed, one such result was redeem them from all iniquity, that's Salvation right there !

    This was promised in the OT Ps 130:896

    And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities. The Israel here is not physical national israel, its Spiritual Israel the Church as seen in Titus 2:14

    In other words the promise of Ps 130:8 found its fulfillment in Christ and the Church, and so its a sure result of Christ redeeming death !
     
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    The positive effect of Christ dying, giving of Himself, or offering of Himself for those He did for, is actual absolute redemption from all iniquity Titus 2:14

    14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

    The word that, the conjunction hina which means:

    in order that, so that, in order that (denoting the purpose or the result

    So His giving of Himself produces redemptive results, which God purposed, one such result was redeem them from all iniquity, that's Salvation right there !

    This was promised in the OT Ps 130:8

    And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities. The Israel here is not physical national israel, its Spiritual Israel the Church as seen in Titus 2:14

    In other words the promise of Ps 130:8 found its fulfillment in Christ and the Church, and so its a sure result of Christ redeeming death !
     
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    The harvest of Christ's Death. Peace, the outcome of the cross. We believe that the Savior's finished work has rendered our[Gods Elect] damnation impossible, and our salvation certain,
     
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    If Christ died for our sins according to the scripture, the following things are true:

    That we were sinners dead in sin without hope, and could do nothing to save ourselves. Matt 1:21; Eph 2:12


    t means that God has chosen us in Christ Jesus before the foundation Eph 1:4 and wherein Grace was given to us in Him for the purpose of saving 2 Tim 1:9

    It means that God has forgiven us all our sins and will not never charge them to us, lay them to our account ! Rom 4; 8;

    If Christ died for us we have the Righteousness of God through Christ charged to us 2 Cor 5:21; Rom 4

    If Christ died for us, His redemptive death secured our salvation from the curse of the law. Gal 3:13

    If Christ died for us, we shall be given Spiritual life by the Spirit Gal 4:4-6

    If Christ died for us, God will send to us the Gospel of our salvation. Eph 1:13; 2 Thess 2:13-14

    If Christ died for us, God will preserve us unto eternal glory ! 2 Tim 4:18105
     
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    What religionist are blind to as it pertains to the Death of Christ and its saving effects, is that Christ death procured life, both Spiritual and Eternal for them He died for. This Life is given, applied to them He died for by the Spirit, so by His death He gives life to the world Jn 6:33

    For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.

    Life here is Spiritual and is imparted by the Spirit in Honor of His Saving Death !
     
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    The Reality of the Death of Christ brings "sin" into the topic of, "Salvation".

    Religionists simply, physically, "believe", or "trust", or "call on", "Pray to", etc., etc., and the topic of, "sin" is not addressed.

    Always, "the willingness of man" or some "Easy-Believism", Eternally Fatal sin, in itself a sin-cursed BOAST, is brought to the table, without the topic of sin, whatsoever.

    Try it. Lean of the question of sin. The soul that sinneth, it must die.

    A Spiritually dead soul has no answer for 'sin'.

    It is, "you must be born again."
     
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    The Scriptures declare of the objective and outcome of Christ’s death, in the most outright and positive terms: "When enemies, we were reconciled to God, by the death of his Son, and shall much more be saved by his life," Romans 5:10. "He died for us, that we should live together with him," 1 Thess. 5: 10. "God hath appointed us to obtain salvation by Jesus Christ,"154

    His death effects that we shall be saved by His Life [conversion] and that we shall live together with Him and obtain Salvation.

    If we dont believe this, we certainly sell the effects of His death short, to our shame !
     
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    I so much prefer the literal rendering here, "it behooveth you to be born from above"!
     
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    Three things result from the death of Christ, for all whom He died, which if they dont occur in our life, its obvious Christ didnt die for us.

    #1 We are reconciled to God Rom 5:10

    10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

    #2 We were spiritually healed Isa 53:5155

    5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. CP 1 Pet 2:24

    #3 We have peace with God Isa 53:5

    5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

    Col 1:20

    And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
     
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    Christ’s death obtained redemption Heb 9:12, if it purges the conscience Heb 9:14, and secures the eternal inheritance Heb 9:15, then there is a exact conjoining between Christ’s sufferings and his saving results; but the aforementioned is true, and therefore so is the last-mentioned.

    Heb 9:12,14,15

    12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

    14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

    15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
     
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    Those Christ died for, He redeemed them, and purchased their release from the dominion of the law and satan and secured upon them the Spirit of Adoption Gal 4:4-6

    4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

    5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

    6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

    Christ was sent into the world to be birthed of a woman, in order to keep the law, even unto death, which death redeemed them He died for [sons]

    The word redeem exagorazō:
    1. to redeem
      1. by payment of a price to recover from the power of another, to ransom, buy off
      2. metaph. of Christ freeing the elect from the dominion of the Mosaic Law at the price of his vicarious death
    2. to buy up, to buy up for one's self, for one's use

    See those whom Christ died for are under the dominion and power of satan Acts 26:18

    To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

    Col 1:13

    Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

    The power of darkness here is the same as the power of satan !

    Now Christs redemptive work redeems, rescues, frees those He died for from satans dominion which includes unbelief, since satan is instrumental in men being in unbelief by blinding their minds 2 Cor 4:4

    4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

    and being rescued, delivered they receive the Adoption of Sons, which is the Spirit.

    Christ dying for them evidenced them being sons, and causing them to receive the Sprit into their hearts.

    Fulfilling the promise Ezk 36:27

    27 And I will put my spirit[of adoption] within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
     
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    When Christ died, it was to save His People from their sins Matt 1:21, hence inclusive in His Death was all that was necessary to secure the intended saving effects of His death. Nothing was left up to man to do in order for His Saving Death would be fruitful, He is Saviour alone ! Rom 8:32

    32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
     
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    Another one of the saving results of the death of Christ is in order that, those He died for will receive the adoption of Sons, which requires sending the Spirit into their hearts Gal 4:4-6

    4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

    5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

    6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

    All for whom Christ died, He redeemed Gal 3:13 and each one of them will in Gods good time , will be given the Spirit into their hearts confirming, validating their adoption of Sons. They will know God as their Father !
     
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    Christs saving death will result in everyone He died for, receiving a Divine Call into the enjoyment of the eternal inheritance. Heb 9:14-15
    14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

    15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

    Eph 1:13-14

    13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth[The Call], the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

    14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
     
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    Scriptures points to the saving death of Christ for them He died for. Now all for whom He died had a legal union with Him and were in Him, so that when He died, they died with Him just as they had a legal union with Adam so that when he died, they died with him. So for those in Christ when He died for them, and rose again, so too also they having died in Him, must also be raised up in newness of life Rom 6:4-6

    4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

    5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

    6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

    See those Christ died for shall walk in the newness of life, will be delivered from being a servant of sin, which is unbelief. In other words they for whom Christ died will be born again, partake of the renewing of the Holy Ghost Titus 3:5

    5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

    The renewing of the Holy Ghost equates to walk in the newness of life in Rom 6:4 above.
     
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    For all those Christ died His death exclusively for them acquired:

    Deliverance from the hand of our enemies, Luke 1:71-74
    71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;

    72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;

    73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,

    74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,

    This has to do with Spiritual enemies, what the carnal jews didn't understand. Jesus is a Horn of Salvation Vs 69

    69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;

    By His Death He becomes the Captain of our Salvation ! This also fulfills the promise of Matt 1:21

    21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
     
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    For all those Christ died His death exclusively for them acquired:

    Deliverance from the wrath to come 1 Thess 1:10

    10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

    For He was raised for our Justification Rom 4:25

    25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

    So again, those for whom offences He was delivered for, they the same consequently were delivered from the wrath to come
     
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    For all those Christ died His death exclusively for them acquired:

    The invalidation and dissolution of death of his power, Heb. 2:14

    14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

    2Tim 1:10

    10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

    All for whom Christ died He will make alive from the dead, even spiritual death, it for them has been invalidated.
     
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    For all those Christ died His death exclusively for them acquired:

    Deliverance from the works of the devil 1 Jn 3:8

    8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
     
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    Christs death is a saving death because its a gathering death Jn 11:50-52

    50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.

    51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;

    52 And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.
     
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