Repentance

[agedman]

This awesome word which merely means to think differently, or turn around and go back, feeling remorse, has lost a considerable amount of usage in the last hundred years.

It seems no longer to impart the same depth of importance that it has in past centuries, and seems that it is soon to be scorned or consigned to “old school” no longer needed.

In replacement, the modern Grace thinking seems to go along the lines of easy confession, or a “my bad” style admission without the sting of remorse or even regret.

The result is that when once one could state, “let your conscience be your guide,” the conscience becomes no longer connected or in contact with true repentance.

The mourner’s bench is vacant, the prayer closet dusty, and the call of repentance lacking effectiveness.

What word then can be used to be as powerful as the word repentance once was?

 

[37818]

Question, why did the Holy Spirit cause that term not to be used in the gospel account to be written by John?

 

[Van]

The false doctrine of Easy Believism asserts repentance is unnecessary for salvation. After all, they say, John only addresses a change in direction following salvation, rather than the pre-salvation commitment to go "all in" for Christ. Which of course is the fallacy of ignoring all the times "repent or repentance" is used in the rest of the bible. Mark 1:15

 

[Marooncat79]

Question, why did the Holy Spirit cause that term not to be used in the gospel account to be written by John?

Idk

John does write about repentance in Revelation


https://www.google.com/amp/s/jimhol...book-of-revelation-the-message-for-today/amp/

 

[agedman]

Because the word repentance has less of a personal impact on the general folk (in my opinion because the use has dwindled and meaning has been minimized by laxity in character) what word can be substituted to bring the person aware of the necessity and submission brought by “Godly sorrow?”

 

[SavedByGrace]

https://www.baptistboard.com/threads/jesus-christ-and-repentance.118815/

 

[agedman]

https://www.baptistboard.com/threads/jesus-christ-and-repentance.118815/

That is a good thread!

The question of this thread is not about the need nor the definition, but what replacement word can be used that might have greater meaning to the current folk who seem to have no practical understanding nor practiced experience in true repentance?

 

[SovereignGrace]

“The chief danger that confronts the coming century will be religion without the Holy Ghost, Christianity without Christ, forgiveness without repentance, salvation without regeneration, politics without God, heaven without hell.”

William Booth

 

[agedman]

“The chief danger that confronts the coming century will be religion without the Holy Ghost, Christianity without Christ, forgiveness without repentance, salvation without regeneration, politics without God, heaven without hell.”

William Booth

Who would have suspected when William was a young man and a pawnbroker that he would be used by God to help, so very many!

 

[AustinC]

This awesome word which merely means to think differently, or turn around and go back, feeling remorse, has lost a considerable amount of usage in the last hundred years.

It seems no longer to impart the same depth of importance that it has in past centuries, and seems that it is soon to be scorned or consigned to “old school” no longer needed.

In replacement, the modern Grace thinking seems to go along the lines of easy confession, or a “my bad” style admission without the sting of remorse or even regret.

The result is that when once one could state, “let your conscience be your guide,” the conscience becomes no longer connected or in contact with true repentance.

The mourner’s bench is vacant, the prayer closet dusty, and the call of repentance lacking effectiveness.

What word then can be used to be as powerful as the word repentance once was?

Indeed we commonly mistake remorse for repentance. Many (including me at times) arr remorseful because we are caught in sin, but we have no intention of repenting (turning to God, away from sin: 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10). We love the pleasure of sin more than the King who redeemed us from the bondage of sin. Like dogs, we return to our own vomit.
May God have mercy on us all.

The phrase used by Paul in Thessalonians is "Turn to God away from..."

 

[agedman]

Sometimes I wish I could give a post multiple ratings.

The above post by @AustinC is such a post.

Oh how I desire to be released from this flesh and no longer “prone to wander!”

 

[Iconoclast]

This awesome word which merely means to think differently, or turn around and go back, feeling remorse, has lost a considerable amount of usage in the last hundred years.

It seems no longer to impart the same depth of importance that it has in past centuries, and seems that it is soon to be scorned or consigned to “old school” no longer needed.

In replacement, the modern Grace thinking seems to go along the lines of easy confession, or a “my bad” style admission without the sting of remorse or even regret.

The result is that when once one could state, “let your conscience be your guide,” the conscience becomes no longer connected or in contact with true repentance.

The mourner’s bench is vacant, the prayer closet dusty, and the call of repentance lacking effectiveness.

What word then can be used to be as powerful as the word repentance once was?

2Cor7:10

 

[37818]

Idk

John does write about repentance in Revelation


https://www.google.com/amp/s/jimhol...book-of-revelation-the-message-for-today/amp/

What purpose does it serve for the term not being used in that gospel as given to John to write it?

 

[AustinC]

Sometimes I wish I could give a post multiple ratings.

The above post by @AustinC is such a post.

Oh how I desire to be released from this flesh and no longer “prone to wander!”

How good and right is the discipline of our King. It may hurt for a moment, but it's correction leads to Mount Zion where we worship with the angels and saints in proclaiming "Holy, Holy, HOLY is the Lord God Almighty!
Hebrews 12

 

[Van]

We should focus of the doctrines taught in John and his other writings, such as repent found in Revelation, rather than speculate as to why something in not found somewhere else.

 

[Marooncat79]

What purpose does it serve for the term not being used in that gospel as given to John to write it?

What is your specific point?

 

[37818]

What is your specific point?

Repentance means to change one's mind about what one believes. The term is not needed. John 3:18, "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

 

[Reformed]

Since the ability to repent is given by God (though the Holy Spirit), the meaning of the English word is of secondary importance. True conversion will be accompanied by a turn from self/sin to the things of God. Good works (Ephesians 2:10) are mentioned by Paul not only as the reason we are saved, but as the evidence of the new man.

 

[Van]

Since the ability to repent is given by God (though the Holy Spirit), the meaning of the English word is of secondary importance. True conversion will be accompanied by a turn from self/sin to the things of God. Good works (Ephesians 2:10) are mentioned by Paul not only as the reason we are saved, but as the evidence of the new man.

Pay no attention to these constant assertions without providing a basis from scripture. Scripture says God grants (allows) repentance, and never suggests humanity cannot repent and believe. See Acts 5:31 and 11:18. To grant means to give or allow.

 

[agedman]

This thread is to consider some other word to REPLACE the word repent, repentance,...

All believers understand the need, and even the considerable work of the Holy Spirit in not only impressing but bringing the believer to repentance.

However, the word itself has been watered down and become ineffective in this modern society.

What word can be used to impress upon folks that shallow "my bad" repentance is not reflecting the Godly repentance leading to salvation and leaves no regret?