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Why Do The Reformed/Calvinists Hate the Lost?

MB

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SBG,
According to the Bible, God does not love everyone:

1) " For thou [art] not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.
5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the Lord will abhor the bloody and deceitful man."
( Psalms 5:4-6 ).
Then why does he save sinners. God hates the sin yes but not the sinners. It is the sinners or workers of iniquity. He loved the sinner enough to die for sinners yet you claim God hates sinners. If you say He died for only the elect you still have no excuse for the sinners he saves everyday. We all better hope He saves sinners and loves them enough to save them.We are all sinners everyone of us.
MB
 

SovereignGrace

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Probably they're all 'skewed' against sovereign grace as you are. It's asinine to think kosmos is referring to 'every man/woman/child alive that has ever lived or will live' each time it's used in the NT. Example:

19 The Pharisees therefore said among themselves, Behold how ye prevail nothing: lo, the world is gone after him. Jn 12

Common sense dictates that this could not possibly mean 'every man/woman/child alive that has ever lived or will live'.

Neither could this one:

20 Jesus answered him, I have spoken openly to the world; I ever taught in synagogues, and in the temple, where all the Jews come together; and in secret spake I nothing. Jn 18

...and....there's many others to reason with.
What about 1 John 2:15? If we love the world then God’s love isn’t in us. If we love everybody w/o exception, His love isn’t in us? O O

I trow not.
 

Reformed1689

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Your Calvinist thinking will not accept that God loves the world Jn 3:16 This is absolute proof, Watch your self deny scripture.
MB
World yes, I do not dispute that. Humanity in general, yes. His creation, yes. All individuals? No.
 

MB

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World yes, I do not dispute that. Humanity in general, yes. His creation, yes. All individuals? No.
Then you deny what scripture actually says. This is nothing unusual for you. You always deny the truth because you don't believe it.Your Calvinism blinds you.Whaqt is funny is that at first you seemingly agree and then at the end deny He didn't die for all.
MB
 

MB

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What about 1 John 2:15? If we love the world then God’s love isn’t in us. If we love everybody w/o exception, His love isn’t in us? O O

I trow not.
Christ said to love our neighbor. The whole world is our neighbor. The world John is speaking of here is the world of sin. It's as obvious as the nose on your face.
MB
 

AustinC

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Sure why not? He doesn't believe the whole of scripture.
MB
You two have to deceive yourselves in order to keep your position propped up. Notice how sbg twisted my laughter to deflect it away from himself and thus accuse me of what I never did. Such disingenuous must be done in order to ignore the obvious error he (and you) holds.
 

SavedByGrace

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You two have to deceive yourselves in order to keep your position propped up. Notice how sbg twisted my laughter to deflect it away from himself and thus accuse me of what I never did. Such disingenuous must be done in order to ignore the obvious error he (and you) holds.

None of you guys have answered the OP
 

Reformed1689

Well-Known Member
Then you deny what scripture actually says. This is nothing unusual for you. You always deny the truth because you don't believe it.Your Calvinism blinds you.Whaqt is funny is that at first you seemingly agree and then at the end deny He didn't die for all.
MB
It doesn't say He died for all individuals. You will not find one single verse that claims that.
 
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