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Featured Lordship Salvation VS Easy Believism

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Feb 7, 2022.

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  1. Reformed1689

    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

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    Right, exactly what I said. Saved produces repentance. Not saved, then repent sometime in the future or never.
     
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    unbelievers repent of their sin

    this means that when a person is an unbeliever, that is, unsaved, they repent of their sin, after which they get saved.

    How comes you guys cannot see that this is taught in places like Acts 2:37-38? It is so clear there
     
    #62 SavedByGrace, Feb 8, 2022
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    You're right, but Mac's books were designed to refute a false doctrine that had crept into our churches - that you could claim Christ as your savior and then possibly, at some later date, if you want to, start living as a Christian and trying to follow Christ. He was concerned because according to all the previous generations of Christians that we have access to, Puritans, Methodists, Arminians, Anabaptists this type of thing was unheard of until a few years ago. His books were designed to be helpful to laymen like us but they probably should not be used as a theology manual.
     
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    And like always you take it out of context. Yes, it says unbelievers repent of their sin but that is not where it stops. It says: INITIALLY WHEN THEY ARE SAVED.
     
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    I am not a Calvinist.
     
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    well. PRAISE THE GOOD LORD! His Mercy endures forever!!! :Whistling:Cool:D:Laugh
     
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    I had a SBC pastor tell me that he just wanted people to say the sinners prayer. If they didn't repent or change their lifestyle, he felt the persons were still saved because they had said the prayer.
    My mouth nearly hit the floor. That explained why his daughter, who was an active cocaine addict, was still leading worship in the church. My wife and I left the church the next day.
     
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    Romans and Galatians?
     
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    Chapter and verse?
     
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    He would not like at all Dr Mac Calvinist salvation theology!
     
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    Only once are saved!
     
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    All way thru both!
     
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    Think that he meant to refute the theology of one altar call saved someone despite no fruit nor evidence to support that!
     
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    That seems to be common in SBC.
     
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    Show us, Yesh. Just one tiny itsy bitsy passage.
     
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    So a sinner can be saved without repentance?

    Complete nonsense
     
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    You wish! 100% NO!!!
     
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    No, repentance is part of saving faith, but the repentance is not for every sin. The repentance at salvation is for being a wretched sinner. Repentance for individual sins is part of the process of sanctification.
     
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    You are saved by the same Lord Jesus as we calvinists are still!
     
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    Well, Many great teachers and pastors and missionaries of the past and present have been though!
     
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