Too Much Jesus?

Brother, from Genesis 1:1, to Revelation 22:21, the Holy Bible is about

JESUS CHRIST

There are many Churches that I have visited in my life, that are "Baptist", where they seem ASHAMED to mention JESUS from the pulpit! They say LORD and GOD, etc, but very rarely JESUS!

How many Churches you have been to, have the leadership say JESUS we LOVE YOU, we WORSHIP and ADORE you???

WHY NOT???

Jesus on God the Father, "Jesus answered, “If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your God" (John 8:54)

Jesus on the Holy Spirit, "He will Glorify Me, for He will take what is Mine and declare it to you." (John 16:14)

Revelation 5:11-12

Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne, the living creatures, and the elders; and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud voice:
“Worthy is the Lamb who was slain To receive power and riches and wisdom, And strength and honor and glory and blessing!”

 

Simplicity is the name of the game in Christian worship. That's simplicity, not shallowness. Simple tunes and simple harmonies easily engaged by the congregation. Two or three songs at most.

Riotous music has no place in the assembly.

 

I'm in agreement with you Bro. Glen. I like to think about what the words mean that I'm singing, and when the music is so loud that it pushes all thought out of my head I cease to be "worshipping" and become frustrated.

If our songs were sung Opera-style, or if the banjo is cranked up to 11, or if there's a Christian rock band, all of those would be in the "too loud" category IMO.

My Church has a small version of a band, but it's fairly quiet (which I still don't like, but it's at least not a rock concert).

 

Ever hear the phrase, "it is what it is?"

One of the common hindrances to Christ's ministry is to present the gospel according to the last generation's cultural norms, rather than becoming all things to all people so that we might win some. Our church under the guidance of a young Pastor was presenting very loud music. I told him it was too loud, but he thought from his front of the stage location, it sounded fine. I pointed out that very young children in the pews ahead of me were putting both hands over their ears. We toned it sound some.

Bottom line, our audience kept growing, such that we were reaching more people for Christ.

Today, as our local churches are returning to lower in person attendance, but higher on-line attendance, we need to address both lines of evangelism, and not ignore those open to the gospel we reach on-line.

 

I agree, that there are many "churches" that are more interested in attracting the young, by adopting their worldly music. I was in a "christian" music shop when I lived in London, some 25 years ago, and the music was very loud, and I could hardly make out the words! A friend that I had told me of his church's youth group hiring a huge hall that was fillied with about 10k, who were dancing to "christian" rock and roll! I asked if there was any message preached, he said no, but many went forward to accept Jesus at the end! This is FALSE

 

Actually when my friend told me about this, I asked him why did the hundreds go forward to "accept" Jesus. He said that it was because of the music. I said that they cannot have been saved!

 

I was in a church once, many years ago, that had a “blended” service; some hymns, some praise and worship (modern).

An older saint told us it was wrong. We should only sing hymns, and only the 12 hymns he had picked out were worthy to worship God with.

We should sing all 12 hymns every week, and only allow for 10-15 minutes of preaching (just a gospel presentation). If we did that, we’d fill the church every Sunday, he assured us.

I guess I’m saying everyone has their preferences. If the brethren are being edified by “Thrive” music, I can be happy for them, even if it’s not for me.

Of course, if the lyrics contradict scripture, then I’ll have a problem.

peace to you

 

And round and round we go.

 

Let the world keep what it owns.

All to Him I owe.

 

Ever hear the phrase, "it is what it is?"

One of the common hindrances to Christ's ministry is to present the gospel according to the last generation's cultural norms, rather than becoming all things to all people so that we might win some. Our church under the guidance of a young Pastor was presenting very loud music. I told him it was too loud, but he thought from his front of the stage location, it sounded fine. I pointed out that very young children in the pews ahead of me were putting both hands over their ears. We toned it sound some.

Bottom line, our audience kept growing, such that we were reaching more people for Christ.

Today, as our local churches are returning to lower in person attendance, but higher on-line attendance, we need to address both lines of evangelism, and not ignore those open to the gospel we reach on-line.