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Entire Sanctification

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Tim71, Mar 6, 2022.

  1. Tim71

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    In this video at approximately 34:41 the preacher says “Paul described his old sinful nature before he was saved in Romans 7:22-25.”
    My question is Do people who hold to entire sanctification doctrine have to say Paul cannot be saved in Romans 7:22-25? I personally believe Paul was saved in Romans 7.
     
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    Is Paul describing himself as enslaved to sin in Romans 7:22-25? If yes, it seems clear it refers to his life prior to salvation, which he clearly says freed him from sin.

    peace to you
     
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    [Romans 7:19] But they wrongly pervert the whole argument that Paul is pursuing here. For he is discussing the Christian struggle (more briefly touched in Galatians [ch.5:17]), which believers constantly feel in themselves in the conflict between flesh and spirit. But the Spirit comes, not from nature, but speaking of these regenerated, because when he had said that no good dwelt in him, he adds the explanation that he is referring to his flesh [Romans 7:20]. What does he mean by this correction: "In me, that is, in my flesh" [Romans 7:18]? It is as if he were speaking in this way: "Good does not dwell in me of myself, for nothing good is to be found in my flesh." Hence follows that form of an excuse: "I myself do not do evil, but sin that dwells in me" [Romans 7:20]. This excuse applies only to the regenerate who tend toward good with the chief part of their soul. Now the conclusion appended clearly explains this whole matter: "For I delight in the law . . . according to the inner man, but I see in my members another law at war with the law of my mind" [Romans 7:22-23]. Who would have such strife in himself but a man who, regenerated by the Spirit of God, bears the remains of his flesh about with him? Therefore, Augustine, although at one time he had thought that passage to be concerned with man's nature, later retracted his interpretation as false and inappropriate.
    John Calvin
     
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    Paul is describing his continued struggle with the flesh. Not his prior.

    He spoke in present tense

    He speaks of the struggle we all have.

    I think alot of the issue is people do not understand what in the flesh means.. And alot of confusion comes from this misunderstanding
     
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    I agree.
     
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