Am I Baptist ?

[timdabap]

Lol.
What kind of question is that ?
I think the better question is: are you a New Testament Christian ?
To which my answer is, hopefully I am, because as far as I know, I hold to the total total total Sovereignty of God over all His creation, over all His works, over all His people in the aspects and matter of their eternal salvation and timely personal, and church, lives.
I refuse to judge and condemn anyone to eternal punishment except the son of perdition, whom others on here say Jesus Christ included in His blood atonement.
(lol. think about that. and I got not a few negative vibes and insinuations in the thread "What if" ?)
Either the blood of Christ, that blood that kept the angel of death away from houses with the passover lamb's blood on the doorpost, the burnt offering, the paschal lamb, the lamb slain before the foundation of the world, the lamb that taketh away the sins of the world, that precious blood described by Peter, took away all the sins of Judas himself, including his betrayal, or it did not.
It is efficacious to those for whom it was shed, or it is not.
Judas is in heaven, or he is not.
Which is it.

Well, are y'all New Testament believers ?

 

[Reformed1689]

Lol.
What kind of question is that ?
I think the better question is: are you a New Testament Christian ?
To which my answer is, hopefully I am, because as far as I know, I hold to the total total total Sovereignty of God over all His creation, over all His works, over all His people in the aspects and matter of their eternal salvation and timely personal, and church, lives.
I refuse to judge and condemn anyone to eternal punishment except the son of perdition, whom others on here say Jesus Christ included in His blood atonement.
(lol. think about that. and I got not a few negative vibes and insinuations in the thread "What if" ?)
Either the blood of Christ, that blood that kept the angel of death away from houses with the passover lamb's blood on the doorpost, the burnt offering, the paschal lamb, the lamb slain before the foundation of the world, the lamb that taketh away the sins of the world, that precious blood described by Peter, took away all the sins of Judas himself, including his betrayal, or it did not.
It is efficacious to those for whom it was shed, or it is not.
Judas is in heaven, or he is not.
Which is it.

Well, are y'all New Testament believers ?

Judas is not in Heaven, and his sins were not paid for.

 

[Salty]

Are you a Baptist? I have no ideal -
Are you a member of a Baptist church?
that is the only way to be a Baptist.

 

[Martin Marprelate]

Either the blood of Christ, that blood that kept the angel of death away from houses with the passover lamb's blood on the doorpost, the burnt offering, the paschal lamb, the lamb slain before the foundation of the world, the lamb that taketh away the sins of the world, that precious blood described by Peter, took away all the sins of Judas himself, including his betrayal, or it did not.

The blood of the Passover lambs was efficacious for all those houses where it was applied, but nowhere else.

 

[kyredneck]

Judas is in heaven, or he is not.
Which is it.

I think not:

70 Jesus answered them, Did not I choose you the twelve, and one of you is a devil? Jn 6

...and yes, you're definitely Baptist.

 

[kyredneck]

Judas is not in Heaven, and his sins were not paid for.

...and you say it such authority!

 

[Reformed1689]

...and you say it such authority!

Yep, Jesus said Judas did not believe. Judas was the son of perdition. Judas was not saved. So yes, I say it with authority because THE authority said so.

 

[tyndale1946]

I think not:

70 Jesus answered them, Did not I choose you the twelve, and one of you is a devil? Jn 6

...and yes, you're definitely Baptist.

2 Timothy 23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

Now I'm going to ask a foolish one... How could Jesus be crucified IF Judas didn't betray him?... Eternal Salvation of ALL his Father gave him, hangs in the balance also the fulfillment of prophecy... Brother Glen

 

[timdabap]

Are you a Baptist? I have no ideal -
Are you a member of a Baptist church?
that is the only way to be a Baptist.

"Baptized" in October 1973 at a Bible Baptist church in Cebu City, Philippines.
Baptized in February 1999 into a Primitive Baptist church in a small Virginia town, for really the first time.
So, what do you think now, Salty ?
By the way, Salty, that's an interesting quote you have there.
"The reality today, is that people are dying and going to hell".
So, the blood of Christ is powerless to stop that "going to hell" bit ?
He lied when He said it is finished ?
What did He finish ?
Who did He save and what was the whole point of His crucifixion and resurrection ?
Is that what all Baptists believe ?
My,oh,my.

 

[Salty]

"Baptized" in October 1973 at a Bible Baptist church in Cebu City, Philippines.
Baptized in February 1999 into a Primitive Baptist church in a small Virginia town, for really the first time.
So, what do you think now, Salty ?

WEll, you said you were baptized - but did you join a Baptist church?

 

[Salty]

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Baptized in February 1999 into a Primitive Baptist church in a small Virginia town, for really the first time. ...

Just curious - how are Primitive Baptists different than other Baptists.

 

[timdabap]

WEll, you said you were baptized - but did you join a Baptist church?

Well, that Bible Baptist church in the Philippines back in 1973 counted me a member, and as far as I can recall, whenever I transferred membership I had a letter of dismission with me,
Same thing with the Primitive Baptists, I had a letter of dismission with me when I joined a local Primitive Baptist church, from the Golden Gate Primitive Baptist church, but I am still a member of the Golden Gate congregation, who reinstated my membership at my petition last year because I found some practices in the local church to be contrary to Primitive Baptist churches.
There.
You have my life story, and others can also read it.
Open book, like they say, nothing hid,
Any more questions ?
Like, have I stopped beating my wife yet ?

 

[37818]

Judas is in heaven, or he is not.
Which is it.

No. Judas is not in Heaven. And yes Jesus purchased every man, 1 Timothy 2:6, Romans 14:9, Romans 14:11, Philippians 2:10-11.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

What makes you think you're not a Baptist?

 

[timdabap]

Just curious - how are Primitive Baptists different than other Baptists.

All you have to do is to google us and you'll see all the pros and cons.
We're not some cult out there with some secrets we don't want anyone to know.
Open book.
But to begin with, we are often thought of as Calvinists, which we are not.
Some Calvinists even hate us because they think we are giving Calvinism a bad name, we are the hyper-hyper-hyper Calvinists, bad, bad, bad....uh-uh..don't touch with a ten foot pole....
Because we believe in the direct operation of the Holy Spirit in the New Birth, no means which excludes everything: preacher, missionary, missions, (in as far as getting people saved unto heaven).
No musical instruments in public worship. (But we have folk singers who are members of a bluegrass band, we have concert pianists, guitarists).
No tithes.
95% of us teach two manners, types, kinds (whichever you prefer) of salvation: Eternal, and timely or gospel.
We baptize those who join us from other orders of Baptists....
No salaried ministry.
No Sunday schools, seminaries.
Some adhere to this or that Confession, some don't.

 

[timdabap]

What makes you think you're not a Baptist?

Oh, I know I'm a Baptist.
Just my way of talking about the doubts of some on here.

 

[timdabap]

No. Judas is not in Heaven. And yes Jesus purchased every man, 1 Timothy 2:6, Romans 14:9, Romans 14:11, Philippians 2:10-11.

No.
Jesus' blood did not redeem, atone for, or cleanse every man. Only those for whom it was shed.
But...if you're happy in your error, preach on.
It's your ditch, not mine.

 

[Salty]

But to begin with, we are often thought of as Calvinists, which we are not..

Thank you- No Prim Baptist in our neck of the woods.

No tithes. .

Wondering if what you mean is my belief?
I do not beleive the NT teaches the thither - rather Grace giving....

 

[timdabap]

Thank you- No Prim Baptist in our neck of the woods.

Figures. Primitive Baptists are small congregations. 10, 12,20...there are larger ones, though, mostly in the South, and Southeast (Mississippi, Georgia, Florida, Kentucky) a smattering in California, a few in the New Mexico-Arizona area, some in Oklahoma, one or two I remember in the Oregon-Washington mountain area (Yakima, if I'm not mistaken).

Wondering if what you mean is my belief?
I do not beleive the NT teaches the thither - rather Grace giving....

That's what we call it --Grace giving.
Give cheerfully, with hilarity, according as the Lord has prospered you, with no grumbling.

 

[37818]

No.
Jesus' blood did not redeem, atone for, or cleanse every man. Only those for whom it was shed.
But...if you're happy in your error, preach on.
It's your ditch, not mine.

I am neither a Calvinist or Arminian. Christ gave His soul for His Sheep and that is the reason He died for everyone.
Matthew 20:16, ". . . for many be called, but few chosen. . . .' Chosen, that is elect.
Matthew 20:28, ". . . and to give his life a ransom for many. . . ."