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[Reformed1689]

God EXPECTS from the NON-ELECT, what He Himself has made IMPOSSIBLE! This makes God to be FALSE in His Commands!

I REPEAT, IF FAITH and REPENTANCE are GIFTS only for the ELECT, given by God in the first place; and He has NOT given these GIFTS to the NON-ELECT, they He must confused to EXPECT from people something He should already KNOW, they are INCAPABLE to EVER DO!

Stop posting IDIOTIC replies thatr are AGAINST God and His Word!

God didn't make it impossible. Perhaps you can't read? OUR SIN, and our bondage to it makes it impossible. We do not desire it, we do not want it. And clearly you don't understand the difference between demanding, commanding, and expecting.

 

[Reformed1689]

Here we have the old, lets change the subject to the behavior of the opponent. These people are empty vessels.

No, you made a false accusation against me saying I called you a name when I did not. Perhaps you read the post too quickly and were too quick to judge?

 

[Reformed1689]

@Van it looks like you are the only one in this thread calling people names...just saying...

 

[Van]

God didn't make it impossible. Perhaps you can't read? OUR SIN, and our bondage to it makes it impossible. We do not desire it, we do not want it. And clearly you don't understand the difference between demanding, commanding, and expecting.

On and on folks, one false claim after another. Read up on the Calvinist "T" of the TULIP. Total Spiritual Inability means unable to repent and trust in Christ. Full Stop...,

 

[SavedByGrace]

I can see the difficulty that some have on here in grasping the English language. Let me try to make it more simple

Reformed theology teaches, that BOTH "faith and repentance" are GIFTS given by God, ONLY to the ELECT. This means that this is NOT given to the NON-ELECT. In which case, God has made it IMPOSSIBLE for ANY person that is not ELECT, and not been GIVEN these GIFTS, to EXERCISE either FAITH or REPENTANCE. It is that simple!

 

[Reformed1689]

On and on folks, one false claim after another. Read up on the Calvinist "T" of the TULIP. Total Spiritual Inability means unable to repent and trust in Christ. Full Stop...,

Yes Van, I suggest you read up on radical depravity because you clearly have not, full stop....

It is much more than an inability to repent, WHY is there an inability. That's what you conveniently leave out and I have pointed out multiple times. If you don't know the topic of Calvinism, which you demonstrably do not, then please quit posting and go study.

 

[Reformed1689]

@Silverhair I have an honest question for you, are you infallible?

 

[SavedByGrace]

The FOLLY continues!

God KNOWS that all the NON-ELECT will not even DESIRE to repent and believe, and yet He COMMANDS that these do so???

I am convinced there are some on here, who are just plain IGNORANT of what they even say, and not ZERO of what the Bible ACTUALLY does Teach!

 

[kyredneck]

What, then, do we do with the words of Paul at Mars Hill?

"The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent," Acts 17:30

Perhaps the answer lies in the simple fact that the Jew Paul is preaching at Mars Hill...

...in contrast to Matthew 10:5-6, Matthew 15:24.

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice: and they shall become one flock, one shepherd. Jn 10

 

[Van]

Yes Van, I suggest you read up on radical depravity because you clearly have not, full stop....

It is much more than an inability to repent, WHY is there an inability. That's what you conveniently leave out and I have pointed out multiple times. If you don't know the topic of Calvinism, which you demonstrably do not, then please quit posting and go study.

More claims his opponent does not understand and needs to read up. Always the same mindless response...
Calvinism is obviously unbiblical nonsense. God commanded all people, not just the Elect to repent.

Is calling a post idiotic name calling?

 

[Reformed1689]

I am convinced there are some on here, who are just plain IGNORANT of what they even say, and not ZERO of what the Bible ACTUALLY does Teach!

Wow, we agree on something.

 

[Reformed1689]

More claims his opponent does not understand and needs to read up. Always the same mindless response...
Calvinism is obviously unbiblical nonsense. God commanded all people, not just the Elect to repent.

Is calling a post idiotic name calling?

You have demonstrated you do not understand and do need to read up, yes.
Calvinism is not obviously unbiblical nonsense. You are arguing with something, I don't really know what it is, but it is not Calvinism.
Yes, God commands all people, not just the elect, to repent. I have never said otherwise.

 

[Silverhair]

@Silverhair I have an honest question for you, are you infallible?

No, I am not but I do follow someone that is. But even though I am fallible I can still see the errors in calvinistic theology.
That fact that you can not or rather will not says a great deal about you.

 

[Van]

You have demonstrated you do not understand and do need to read up, yes.
Calvinism is not obviously unbiblical nonsense. You are arguing with something, I don't really know what it is, but it is not Calvinism.
Yes, God commands all people, not just the elect, to repent. I have never said otherwise.

On and on folks, endless personal insults rather than a defense of the obviously false doctrines of Calvinism. God commanded all people to repent, not just the elect, thus the following Calvinist doctrine is unbiblical nonsense:

The command to repent was directed not to all men but to the men whom He regenerated already at a given moment, because He has given them the ability to repent, which the unregenerate, dead in sins and trespasses, do not possess.


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[SavedByGrace]

Perhaps the answer lies in the simple fact that the Jew Paul is preaching at Mars Hill...

...in contrast to Matthew 10:5-6, Matthew 15:24.

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice: and they shall become one flock, one shepherd. Jn 10

God COMMANDS ALL PEOPLE EVERYWHERE to repent, and it MEANS exactly what it SAYS!

 

[37818]

Repentance is a change of mind or view. It is impossible to have a new belief without a repentance.

 

[Van]

Observe the following truths:

Calvinism claims scripture (all people everywhere to repent) does not mean what it says.

Some Calvinists claim their published doctrinal statements do not mean what they say. (See post #34)

 

[SavedByGrace]

I can still see the errors in calvinistic theology

because on salvation it is HERETICAL!

 

[SavedByGrace]

Repentance is a change of mind or view. It is impossible to have a new belief without a repentance.

and that REPENTANCE FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS should be proclaimed in His name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem (Luke 24:47)

 

[tyndale1946]

No, I am not but I do follow someone that is. But even though I am fallible I can still see the errors in calvinistic theology.
That fact that you can not or rather will not says a great deal about you.

What about a Jew that knows and worships God but does not know the Son in a Christian sense, can he repent?... Is his repentance any different than mine?... Brother Glen

Btw... In reference to what Kentucky said in post #29