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Featured J C Philpot: A man who walked and taught the Narrow Path.

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by CalTech, Apr 23, 2022.

  1. CalTech

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    Greetings in the name of our Dear Lord and Saviour.

    I am sure there are many who have heard, and possibly read some of this Godly man's sermons.
    I discovered him about 10 years ago, however in the last 2 years, I've come to read over 25 of his sermon's, and I am presently reading his 52 paged teaching on the "Eternal Sonship of the Lord Jesus Christ" and I am presently on the 22nd page, of this Holy Spirit filled teaching.

    During the last 2 years, due to the "plandemic" and the forced and unlawful "curfew hours" where we could not go out on the streets from 8pm-6am. I thank the Lord I had a balcony in which I could go out and get fresh air during the night hours. Also one was only allowed out if one had to do food shopping, etc., So it was during this time I started to truly get into and read from Philpot's sermon's, which one is able to download all of them for free, as it should be!

    There was his sermon's on " Lawful Strife Pt. 1 and Pt 2", which the Lord granted me understanding of the scriptures given in this sermon, I had asked the Lord a couple of years earlier to grant me understanding, and through JC Philpot's teaching I began to understand more deeply how a believer must truly be "Legally striving" for sanctification, it was a wonderful revelation, which also affirmed somethings I did understand, but not fully!

    This man saw the "falling away" during his time during the mid 1800's, about 1840's until his death in 1869, and he was not afraid to speak of it! To tell the truth, I have NEVER heard a pastor/teacher speak such Holy Spirit truth from any pulpit, video, or book as this man did speak! And I have been through every denomination there is, with exception of the LDS, Jehovah Witness, and 7th Day Adventist's, and the RCC.

    Look forward to other's views on this mostly Godly man who depended upon the working Power of the Holy Spirit to write the precept's of the Lord upon His heart and soul.

    The Lord bless you....
    In His Love.....
     
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    I love J. C. Philpot's daily devotionals - "Daily Portions" and "Through Baca's Vale".
     
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    Greetings,

    I have not read his devotionals as of yet, I am still working on his sermon's which there are scores of! There are 10 volumes of his sermon's, and so many other of his writings, which I have downloaded for free. His sermon's are Treasures from Heaven, in which the Lord has used his teachings to confirm what the Lord has taught me, and also has given me for deeper insights which I needed to see.

    He was truly a blessing to the Body of Christ, and Glorified the Lord His Saviour!

    The Lord bless you!
     
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    I love to read the old, solid preachers of salvation by the sovereign grace of God through the finished work of Christ as the LORD our RIGHTEOUSNESS for all those for whom He lived and died - men such as John Gill, William Mason, Robert Hawker, J. C. Philpot, John Saltmarsh, William Gadsby, Joseph Irons, Isaac Chauncy, et al.
     
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    I am just taking it one man at a time, as the Lord leads me. I shall take note of these other's and search them out. Thank you for sharing their names! However I have read Gill's commentary, I have him listed on my E-Sword Bible study App.
    Lord bless you!
     
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    I have learned about so many of these men from my pastor over the past 10 months. I have lots of links on my computer and books electronically on my Kindle and also actual, physical books. At my age I have probably have more than enough to keep me busy a long way(maybe all the way) toward when either Christ returns to establish the new heavens and earth wherein dwells righteousness or I leave this fallen world. But as Solomon wrote: "of making many books there is no end" (Ecclesiastes 12:12) :)
     
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    An important topic. In the Christian community there are two views of Eternal Sonship. One where it is deemed not to be Biblical. And the interpretation the Bible does teach it. I personally hold to the latter view.

    Regarding his preaching. Beginning with his Preface Eternal Sonship is presumed without Biblical proof or statement that it has no beginning. A Preface and four Chapters. And Chapter one has three parts.

    True Gospel Ministries - J C Philpot
     
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    Greetings,

    Philpot teaches Holy Spirit truth.
    For it witnesses within my heart & soul, and has since the Lord came and saved me 44 years ago. I have not been moved from that Truth, that Jesus Christ is the Eternal Divine Son, who was there from the beginning unto all eternity.

    The Lord bless you.....
     
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    I agree. According to John 1:18 He was the Son when He appeared to Abraham in Genesis 12:7 being the LORD [YHWH]. Again in John 12:41 when He appeared to Isaiah in Isaiah 6:5. Two simple proofs. Based on John 1:18 reading "Son." Also Proverbs 30:4.
     
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    Greetings,

    When you stated you were of the "latter view" I thought you were stating you do adhere to the camp where they deny the Lord His Eternal Sonship!
    I misunderstood because I do believe you were stating the latter view in conjunction with " And the interpretation the Bible does teach it."
    Oy.......how I suffer, my brain can be a bit scattered at times!

    Thank you!

    Lord bless you......
    In His Love....
     
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    Yes... OH YES... I have truly been blessed by these old theologians and thankyou from this unworthy one in the LORD, for these wonderful truths... I remember growing up, my Primitive Baptist Dad had the complete expository volumes of Gill, those suckers were heavy... I've also read Philpot in the little green books... Read Gill, Philpot, Gadsby but thanks for the link... Iconoclast posted Hussey which I sent him on God's Operation Of Grace written in 1708 but then again you have to be in the right mindset to understand it... CalTech if you want brethren to correspond to you have to open up yourself to conversation... If anyone wants to we can start an old theologian group to those who want to join... I see three, I know who will come... Just a suggestion... I know there are more Godly theologians of the past, just don't know where to find them... Brother Glen:)
     
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    Greetings,

    If have "followed" some member's but only two have done so. And I do open myself up, but I walk with caution, I've been so betrayed and bullied by person's through the decades, and as of late one person two years ago, who is not a member on this board. So I walk with caution, but not in fear.......

    I am not one that reads so many books. I take it as the Lord leads me. I'm working on all of the works of Philpot, and that is all I can undertake at the moment. I am not one that goes running after all these pastor/teacher's. I've learned by the Lord's chastisements to lean upon HIM, most do not realize that we have a tendency to lean upon the arm of man, way....way too much. I know I did because I was so needy as a babe in Christ.

    I do hope this opening a bit more. Send me a message anytime you desire to.

    The Lord Bless you....
    In His Love....
     
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    I am not familiar with the sermons of J. C. Philpot, but did look at one, "A Peculiar People" which claimed the KJV translation of 1 Peter 2:9 was accurate. However, if you look at other translations the word refers to people belonging to God, who could be run of the mill, or odd balls. God does not choose us based on the world's perception of us, but upon our faith as credited (or not) by God.
     
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    Greetings,

    Thank you for your input, however I have done a comparison with various other types of bible versions. And I prayerfully have kept to my 44 yr old KJV bible. It is the only one I do trust.

    Your statement "God does not choose us based on the world's perception of us, but upon our faith as credited (or not) by God."
    Makes no sense, and my KJV Bible verse does not speak in those terms, so I truly do not know where you are getting that from.

    The Lord bless you
     
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    The phrase, "God is no respecter of persons" (Acts 10:34) refers to the fact God does not show partiality according to the world's value system, thus God does not choose many of the well born, wealthy, or powerful.

    As far as claiming Romans 4:4-5; Romans 4:23-24 makes no sense to you, without an explanation of how we benefit from that action of God, suggests obfuscation.
     
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    JC Philpot uses 1 Peter 2:9 properly, he is not at all suggesting that God chooses those " according to the world's value system". He is actually stating that God will choose whomever He desire's too.
    1Co_1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

    And I am one of those "foolish things" from a perverse gay lifestyle. So your unfounded accusation against JC Philpot is plainly false.

    The Lord bless you.....
     
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    "Unfounded accusation?" I provided the basis, mistranslation by the KJV, of a word actually meaning "something owned or possessed" as meaning "Peculiar."

    Did J. C. Philpot make a bogus case for God choosing people "peculiar" according to the world's value system? Yes.
    I am not saying J.C. Philpot did not present biblical truth in his sermons, but I am saying his sermons also contained obvious flaws which should be rejected out of hand...
     
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    The Greek word "peripoiēsis" refers to obtaining or possessing someone or something. The word appears in the NT 5 times, and KJV translates it as "purchased possession, obtain, obtaining, saving and peculiar." YLT goes with "acquired possession, acquired, preserving and acquiring. Thus the entire sermon, "A Peculiar People" is bogus and based on a mistranslation.
     
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    The WBMS(Wycliffe's Bible with Modern Spelling which predates the KJV by over 200 years) has:

    1 Peter 2:9 But ye be a chosen kin [or ye be a kind chosen], a kingly priesthood, holy folk, a people of purchasing, that ye tell the virtues of him, that called you from darknesses into his wonderful light.
     
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    Greetings,

    I do not care about "other" translations.
    JC Philpot has not presented "obvious flaws" as far as I have read his sermon's, which is over 25 to date.
    So I do not accept your "opinion" concerning his teachings.
    This conversation is now at an end.
    The Lord bless you....
    Have a good day.....
     
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