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To Whom Was Sin Imputed?

KenH

Well-Known Member
TO WHOM WAS SIN IMPUTED?

"Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin" (Romans 4:8). "Blessed" means well off, happy, to be envied. "The man" stands for every vessel of mercy, everyone chosen unto salvation, redeemed by the blood of Christ, certain to be regenerated by the Spirit and brought to faith in the Savior and destined to dwell with the Lord forever. "Impute" means to reckon, to charge to the account of. Concerning this man who is blessed, there is no doubt as to his natural depravity "for all have sinned" (Romans 3:23). But the issue before us is not the man’s sinfulness, but the non-imputation of sin to him. This raises an important question. If God declares that this man’s sin is not imputed to him, to whom then was it imputed and how was the debt removed? After all, if sin is not reckoned to this man, surely the justice of God demands it be reckoned to a suitable Substitute. The man owed a debt to God which he had no ability to pay and we know that the Lord cannot merely erase the indebtedness without satisfaction because "the wages of sin is death" (Romans 6:23). While it is true that the blessed man has been cleared of all charges and stands righteous before God, yet the issue remains - to whom was his sin imputed and how was justice satisfied? Here is the gospel answer. Unbeknown to the blessed man prior to regeneration, the Surety stood for him in the covenant of grace and became fully responsible and accountable for his sins. The Father has always looked to Christ to make satisfaction for the iniquities of His people. The sin of the man was imputed to Christ and when He died as God’s Sacrifice, He canceled the indebtedness, removed the guilt, washed sin away and brought in everlasting righteousness. As the debt was imputed to Christ and He paid it in full, so the righteousness He established has been imputed to the blessed man and he stands perpetually accepted and blameless before God. "Who shall lay anything to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, Who is even at the right hand of God, Who also maketh intercession for us" (Romans 8:33-34).

- Pastor Jim Byrd
Thirteenth Street Baptist Church
Ashland, Kentucky
 

CalTech

Active Member
Greetings,

It was Jesus, to whom sin was imputed. All of OUR sins was placed upon the Lord..........


The Lord bless you.
In His Love......
 

Van

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Once again the false doctrine that we were "declared," "reckoned," "imputed" to be righteous, rather than made righteous by the washing of regeneration is hoisted upon this board.

Romans 4:8
“BLESSED IS THE MAN WHOSE SIN THE LORD WILL NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.” Does this make the individual righteous? Nope, only that God has chosen to overlook for a time the individual's unholiness.

Romans 3:21-23
But now apart from the law the righteousness of God (which is attested by the law and the prophets) has been disclosed -
namely, the righteousness of God through the faithfulness of Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction,
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gracious gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Where do individuals obtain the gifts of salvation? Within Christ, and never before the individual is chosen and placed into Christ.

The opening post contains even more utterly false teachings. Are we regenerated before being place into Christ? Nope for we are made alive "together with Christ." Ephesians 2:5 Thus our sins are only removed after being united with Christ by the washing of regeneration. And when are our sins removed? When Christ died? Nope, but when God places an individual into Christ where they undergo the washing of regeneration.
 

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
Once again the false doctrine that we were "declared," "reckoned," "imputed" to be righteous, rather than made righteous by the washing of regeneration is hoisted upon this board.

Romans 4:8
“BLESSED IS THE MAN WHOSE SIN THE LORD WILL NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.” Does this make the individual righteous? Nope, only that God has chosen to overlook for a time the individual's unholiness.

Romans 3:21-23
But now apart from the law the righteousness of God (which is attested by the law and the prophets) has been disclosed -
namely, the righteousness of God through the faithfulness of Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction,
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gracious gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Where do individuals obtain the gifts of salvation? Within Christ, and never before the individual is chosen and placed into Christ.

The opening post contains even more utterly false teachings. Are we regenerated before being place into Christ? Nope for we are made alive "together with Christ." Ephesians 2:5 Thus our sins are only removed after being united with Christ by the washing of regeneration. And when are our sins removed? When Christ died? Nope, but when God places an individual into Christ where they undergo the washing of regeneration.
What you call false doctrine though is Pauline Justification, so was Paul wrong?
 

Van

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
What you call false doctrine though is Pauline Justification, so was Paul wrong?
You have made this same false denying Scripture over and over. We are made righteous by the washing of regeneration. Full Stop. Here, folks is the truth.

Once again the false doctrine that we were "declared," "reckoned," "imputed" to be righteous, rather than made righteous by the washing of regeneration is hoisted upon this board.

Romans 4:8
“BLESSED IS THE MAN WHOSE SIN THE LORD WILL NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.” Does this make the individual righteous? Nope, only that God has chosen to overlook for a time the individual's unholiness.

Romans 3:21-23
But now apart from the law the righteousness of God (which is attested by the law and the prophets) has been disclosed -
namely, the righteousness of God through the faithfulness of Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction,
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gracious gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Where do individuals obtain the gifts of salvation? Within Christ, and never before the individual is chosen and placed into Christ.

The opening post contains even more utterly false teachings. Are we regenerated before being place into Christ? Nope for we are made alive "together with Christ." Ephesians 2:5 Thus our sins are only removed after being united with Christ by the washing of regeneration. And when are our sins removed? When Christ died? Nope, but when God places an individual into Christ where they undergo the washing of regeneration.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
The verse (Romans 4:8) speaks of forgiveness.

Romans 4:8 Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will not take into account.

It is an OT quote;

Psalm 32:1–2 How blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered!
How blessed is the man to whom the Lord does not impute iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no deceit!

Blessed is the man whose sin is forgiven.

The question of the OP is "whose sin is not forgiven?"

The answer is those without faith.

It in no way hints at God imputing sin onto people, but rather God not taking into account one's sin.
 

CalTech

Active Member
You have made this same false denying Scripture over and over. We are made righteous by the washing of regeneration. Full Stop. Here, folks is the truth.

Once again the false doctrine that we were "declared," "reckoned," "imputed" to be righteous, rather than made righteous by the washing of regeneration is hoisted upon this board.

Romans 4:8
“BLESSED IS THE MAN WHOSE SIN THE LORD WILL NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.” Does this make the individual righteous? Nope, only that God has chosen to overlook for a time the individual's unholiness.

Romans 3:21-23
But now apart from the law the righteousness of God (which is attested by the law and the prophets) has been disclosed -
namely, the righteousness of God through the faithfulness of Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction,
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gracious gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Where do individuals obtain the gifts of salvation? Within Christ, and never before the individual is chosen and placed into Christ.

The opening post contains even more utterly false teachings. Are we regenerated before being place into Christ? Nope for we are made alive "together with Christ." Ephesians 2:5 Thus our sins are only removed after being united with Christ by the washing of regeneration. And when are our sins removed? When Christ died? Nope, but when God places an individual into Christ where they undergo the washing of regeneration.


Greetings,

We are made Righteous because Jesus shed His Blood so that our sins, once convicted of our sin's, cleanses us from ALL our sins, past, present and future ones. So once we are "Born-again" from above our Heavenly Father see's us as Righteous because He see's us in the Righteousness of Christ.

So our sin's were "imputed" upon Christ when He was crucified upon the cross. For He carried the burden of our sin's as "if" they were His, upon His flesh.

2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Praise His Glorious Name, which is ABOVE ALL names!

The Lord bless you.....
In His Love.....
 

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
The verse (Romans 4:8) speaks of forgiveness.

Romans 4:8 Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will not take into account.

It is an OT quote;

Psalm 32:1–2 How blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered!
How blessed is the man to whom the Lord does not impute iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no deceit!

Blessed is the man whose sin is forgiven.

The question of the OP is "whose sin is not forgiven?"

The answer is those without faith.

It in no way hints at God imputing sin onto people, but rather God not taking into account one's sin.
God the Father imputed unto Jesus our own sins!
 

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
Greetings,

We are made Righteous because Jesus shed His Blood so that our sins, once convicted of our sin's, cleanses us from ALL our sins, past, present and future ones. So once we are "Born-again" from above our Heavenly Father see's us as Righteous because He see's us in the Righteousness of Christ.

So our sin's were "imputed" upon Christ when He was crucified upon the cross. For He carried the burden of our sin's as "if" they were His, upon His flesh.

2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Praise His Glorious Name, which is ABOVE ALL names!

The Lord bless you.....
In His Love.....
indeed, the father imputed unto Jesus our sins so that in Him we might have his righteousness imputed to wards us!
 

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
You have made this same false denying Scripture over and over. We are made righteous by the washing of regeneration. Full Stop. Here, folks is the truth.

Once again the false doctrine that we were "declared," "reckoned," "imputed" to be righteous, rather than made righteous by the washing of regeneration is hoisted upon this board.

Romans 4:8
“BLESSED IS THE MAN WHOSE SIN THE LORD WILL NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.” Does this make the individual righteous? Nope, only that God has chosen to overlook for a time the individual's unholiness.

Romans 3:21-23
But now apart from the law the righteousness of God (which is attested by the law and the prophets) has been disclosed -
namely, the righteousness of God through the faithfulness of Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction,
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gracious gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Where do individuals obtain the gifts of salvation? Within Christ, and never before the individual is chosen and placed into Christ.

The opening post contains even more utterly false teachings. Are we regenerated before being place into Christ? Nope for we are made alive "together with Christ." Ephesians 2:5 Thus our sins are only removed after being united with Christ by the washing of regeneration. And when are our sins removed? When Christ died? Nope, but when God places an individual into Christ where they undergo the washing of regeneration.
Still denying Pauline Justification, eh?
 

Van

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Greetings,

We are made Righteous because Jesus shed His Blood so that our sins, once convicted of our sin's, cleanses us from ALL our sins, past, present and future ones. So once we are "Born-again" from above our Heavenly Father see's us as Righteous because He see's us in the Righteousness of Christ.

So our sin's were "imputed" upon Christ when He was crucified upon the cross. For He carried the burden of our sin's as "if" they were His, upon His flesh.

2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Praise His Glorious Name, which is ABOVE ALL names!

The Lord bless you.....
In His Love.....

Your understanding of scripture ignores what it says. You quoted 2 Corinthians 5:21 but did not seem to see it said we were made righteous rather than being declared righteous. Our sins were not removed when Christ died, but when we underwent the washing of regeneration also called the circumcision of Christ. These so named actions of God take place when we are spiritually placed into Christ, and therefore not when Christ died.
 

Van

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Still denying Pauline Justification, eh?
We are made righteous by the washing of regeneration. Full Stop. Here, folks is the truth.

Once again the false doctrine that we were "declared," "reckoned," "imputed" to be righteous, rather than made righteous by the washing of regeneration is hoisted upon this board.

Romans 4:8
“BLESSED IS THE MAN WHOSE SIN THE LORD WILL NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.” Does this make the individual righteous? Nope, only that God has chosen to overlook for a time the individual's unholiness.

Romans 3:21-23
But now apart from the law the righteousness of God (which is attested by the law and the prophets) has been disclosed -
namely, the righteousness of God through the faithfulness of Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction,
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gracious gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Where do individuals obtain the gifts of salvation? Within Christ, and never before the individual is chosen and placed into Christ.

The opening post contains even more utterly false teachings. Are we regenerated before being place into Christ? Nope for we are made alive "together with Christ." Ephesians 2:5 Thus our sins are only removed after being united with Christ by the washing of regeneration. And when are our sins removed? When Christ died? Nope, but when God places an individual into Christ where they undergo the washing of regeneration.
 

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
We are made righteous by the washing of regeneration. Full Stop. Here, folks is the truth.

Once again the false doctrine that we were "declared," "reckoned," "imputed" to be righteous, rather than made righteous by the washing of regeneration is hoisted upon this board.

Romans 4:8
“BLESSED IS THE MAN WHOSE SIN THE LORD WILL NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.” Does this make the individual righteous? Nope, only that God has chosen to overlook for a time the individual's unholiness.

Romans 3:21-23
But now apart from the law the righteousness of God (which is attested by the law and the prophets) has been disclosed -
namely, the righteousness of God through the faithfulness of Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction,
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gracious gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Where do individuals obtain the gifts of salvation? Within Christ, and never before the individual is chosen and placed into Christ.

The opening post contains even more utterly false teachings. Are we regenerated before being place into Christ? Nope for we are made alive "together with Christ." Ephesians 2:5 Thus our sins are only removed after being united with Christ by the washing of regeneration. And when are our sins removed? When Christ died? Nope, but when God places an individual into Christ where they undergo the washing of regeneration.
God imputes the very righteousness of the Lord Jesus towards us, correct?
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
God the Father imputed unto Jesus our own sins!
God did lay upon Him (and He took upon Himself) the iniquity of mankind (the sin of all man).

But in terms of imputation (using the theological definition of ascribing righteousness or guilt), that is not in Scripture.
 

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
God did lay upon Him (and He took upon Himself) the iniquity of mankind (the sin of all man).

But in terms of imputation (using the theological definition of ascribing righteousness or guilt), that is not in Scripture.
It is in Pauline Justification!
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
But in terms of imputation (using the theological definition of ascribing righteousness or guilt), that is not in Scripture.

Yes, it is. The ONLY way for a human being to have his sin debt paid is to have it imputed to Christ and paid by Him at the cross by His blood. The ONLY way for a human being to be able to stand before God perfectly righteousness is to have the perfect righteousness of Christ imputed to him. If not for imputation, we human beings would have absolutely no hope whatsoever and we would all be lost.

Psalm 32:1-2 Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, Whose sin is covered. Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, And in whose spirit there is no guile.

Romans 4:6-8 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, And whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
 

Van

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
God imputes the very righteousness of the Lord Jesus towards us, correct?
Why ask your repeat questions that have been answered time and again. To change the subject? Why not address your acceptance of post 16 which reflects actual scripture?
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
Yes, it is. The ONLY way for a human being to have his sin debt paid is to have it imputed to Christ and paid by Him at the cross by His blood. The ONLY way for a human being to be able to stand before God perfectly righteousness is to have the perfect righteousness of Christ imputed to him. If not for imputation, we human beings would have absolutely no hope whatsoever and we would all be lost.

Psalm 32:1-2 Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, Whose sin is covered. Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, And in whose spirit there is no guile.

Romans 4:6-8 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, And whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Sin debt?
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
Sin debt?

"Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died; yea, rather, that is risen again; who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us."— Rom, viii. 33, 34.

See, my soul, what a blessed security thou hast. Here is God justifying; Christ dying; the Holy Ghost raising the sinner's surety from the grave, as an evidence that the debt of sin is cancelled; and Jesus ever living to see the travail of his soul, and be satisfied in the redemption of his people. What, then, shall rob thee of thy comfort, while thou art triumphing in thy Jesus? Sin shall not; for Jesus hath put it away by the sacrifice of himself. The law cannot; for thy Jesus hath answered all its just demands. Divine justice cannot; for God himself justifieth. Death and hell cannot; for Jesus hath conquered both. In short, all that stood in thy way, the Son of God hath removed. And wilt thou not, my soul, triumph in the great salvation of thy Jesus? Surely the poor debtor may walk as boldly before the prison door, as the king in his palace, when his debts are paid.

- from Richard Hawker's The Poor Man's Morning and Evening Portions, Morning, February 8
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
"Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died; yea, rather, that is risen again; who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us."— Rom, viii. 33, 34.

See, my soul, what a blessed security thou hast. Here is God justifying; Christ dying; the Holy Ghost raising the sinner's surety from the grave, as an evidence that the debt of sin is cancelled; and Jesus ever living to see the travail of his soul, and be satisfied in the redemption of his people. What, then, shall rob thee of thy comfort, while thou art triumphing in thy Jesus? Sin shall not; for Jesus hath put it away by the sacrifice of himself. The law cannot; for thy Jesus hath answered all its just demands. Divine justice cannot; for God himself justifieth. Death and hell cannot; for Jesus hath conquered both. In short, all that stood in thy way, the Son of God hath removed. And wilt thou not, my soul, triumph in the great salvation of thy Jesus? Surely the poor debtor may walk as boldly before the prison door, as the king in his palace, when his debts are paid.

- from Richard Hawker's The Poor Man's Morning and Evening Portions, Morning, February 8
I understand Richard Hawker believes in a sid debt, and in the Bible I see that the wages of sin is death.

What passage are you thinking of when you say "sin debt" (or is there another way to word it)?

The reason I ask is the term "sin debt" seems to convey the idea that because of our sins there is an incurred debt that must be paid (rather than wages of sin, demands of the Law, etc.).

I just want to be clear about the passage so that there are no assumptions from either of us.
 
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