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Johannine Comma Greek Grammar Myth.

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by 37818, Jun 27, 2022.

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  1. 37818

    37818 Well-Known Member

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    The text without it.

    οτι τρεις εισιν οι μαρτυρουντες
    το πνευμα και το υδωρ και το αιμα και οι τρεις εις το εν εισιν

    The text with it.

    οτι τρεις εισιν οι μαρτυρουντες εν τω ουρανω ο πατηρ ο λογος και το αγιον πνευμα και ουτοι οι τρεις εν εισι
    και τρεις εισιν οι μαρτυρουντες εν τη γη το πνευμα και το υδωρ και το αιμα και οι τρεις εις το εν εισι

    As you can see it fixes nothing.
     
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    Without Comma, you can never explain why Spirit, Water, Blood should be taken over by Masculine Pronoun.

    < Three are the witnessing gentlemen, the Spirit, the Water, the Blood and those 3 (gentlemen) are in one>

    Spirit, Water, Blood, three are the witnessing genlemen ( As English doesn't have the gender, I added the gentlemen for the distinction).

    Do you think Spirit, Water, Blood are the masculine?

    πνευμα, υδωρ, αιμα in Greek are all Neuter gender.

    If you don't see the problem with the grammar there, you are blind.


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    Are you blind? With the Comma it does not fix the second usage of τρεις εισιν οι μαρτυρουντες. That why your argument is a myth.
     
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    You are still blind as the Comma fixes the problem because the Oi Marturontes can take over the previous nouns before the Spirit. Water. Blood. Without the Comma, there is no ground for the masculine pronoun.
    You are very right within your limited knowlege, limited experience, limited understanding.

    Eliyahu
     
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    Just saying so.
    But how? Not making any sense.

     
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    You (snip) may not (snip) understand the truth behind Comma.
    So, it is a waste of time to attempt to help you understand the Comma.

    Eliyahu
     
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    You @Eliyahu are the one incapable of disproving your myth to anyone. Who on this BB has been persuaded? They could speak up.
     
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