37818
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Why wouldn't he?Adam didn't have sweat glands in his brow before he rebelled?
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The knowledge of good and evil being the cause to the fallen nature.
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Clearly you missed my extreme literalism (as a joke).
You wrote:
"The sweat of the brow was the result of God cursing the ground."
Hence my response and emoji.
"Adam didn't have sweat glands in his brow before he rebelled?
"Have you ever worked real hard on a task and felt good about it afterwards?
that’s how Adam would have felt about work before the fall ie he was very satisfied in it
after the fall, work became a great toil and often frustrating
after the resurrection, all things will be restored and we will once again rejoice in our work because it pleases God
that’s how Adam would have felt about work before the fall ie he was very satisfied in it
after the fall, work became a great toil and often frustrating
after the resurrection, all things will be restored and we will once again rejoice in our work because it pleases God
37818
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You are oblivious.
Your answer, not in the least "twisted" is God's curse did not cause the Fall, but rather the knowledge of good and evil. The view is unbiblical nonsense. Full Stop.
George Antonios
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@37818 This is very very interesting. We do simply gloss over Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
The Genesis account certainly indicates that it's the knowledge of evil that corrupted us.
It's so clear and simple and intuitive I am surprised I never heard that before.
Maybe the Calvinistic notion of God reconstituting man's nature after the fall crowded out this simple observation from the conversation.
That's a great observation brother.
George is supporting you, 37. That should make you cringe.
There is a reason why none in orthodox Christianity teach what 37 teaches. It's because it is a false teaching.
George Antonios
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This is really opening things up. I just recalled that Paul frames his discussion of the sinful nature in Romans 7 also in terms of knowledge:
Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
This clearly cross-references back to:
Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil
That's it then. Our sinful nature is sinful because of its knowledge of evil, a knowledge gained after eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. It all fits.
Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
This clearly cross-references back to:
Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil
That's it then. Our sinful nature is sinful because of its knowledge of evil, a knowledge gained after eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. It all fits.
LOL, you show us your illogic here, George. I suggest you start at Romans 1 and read through Romans 11 so you can get the full grasp of what Paul is arguing in Romans 7. Right now, you're just spit balling...
George Antonios
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A specific correction of specific errors would be more helpful than the signature disdain-cum-generic-advice comment.