Does God delight in burning people in Hell?

[Silverhair]

Back to the OP. Your reference of Mr. Washer…

…. fails to show that “Calvinists” believe God delights in tormenting people with hellfire for all eternity.

peace to you

But is it not your theology that has God condemn the vast majority of humanity to hell just because He can. It's not for their sin as this was all decided before time began according to your theological view.

 

[Silverhair]

Just because you say it doesn’t make it true.

peace to you

I can say the same to you couldn't I.

 

[canadyjd]

But is it not your theology that has God condemn the vast majority of humanity to hell just because He can. It's not for their sin as this was all decided before time began according to your theological view.

It is not “my theology” that God condemns anyone “just because He can”.

peace to you

 

[canadyjd]

I can say the same to you couldn't I.

No, not with any intellectual honesty.

I supported my position with scripture (1 Corinthians 1) that God, in His sovereignty, has ordained the gospel of Jesus Christ and Him crucified, as the only means by which people will be saved.

Your statement ….

You continue to ignore clear scripture that does not fit your theology so it is your theology you believe and not the bible. You need God to fit into a little box that you have constructed and just can not or rather will not allow Him to be God.

…. is untrue. I do not ignore scripture (you do). I do not put “God …in a little box”. God doesn’t need my permission to be Himself. God will act, however, according to what He has revealed about Himself in scripture.

So, again, you prove my repeated statement that your views render you unfit to offer guidance on understanding scripture or theology.

Truly, just because you say it, especially if YOU say it, doesn’t make it true.

peace to you

 

[Silverhair]

It is not “my theology” that God condemns anyone “just because He can”.

peace to you

Do you hold to the DoG?
Only those that are included in the Unconditional Election will partake of the Limited Atonement and will be drawn to God by His Irresistible Grace.

 

[Silverhair]

No, not with any intellectual honesty.

I supported my position with scripture (1 Corinthians 1) that God, in His sovereignty, has ordained the gospel of Jesus Christ and Him crucified, as the only means by which people will be saved.

Your statement ….


…. is untrue. I do not ignore scripture (you do). I do not put “God …in a little box”. God doesn’t need my permission to be Himself. God will act, however, according to what He has revealed about Himself in scripture.

So, again, you prove my repeated statement that your views render you unfit to offer guidance on understanding scripture or theology.

Truly, just because you say it, especially if YOU say it, doesn’t make it true.

peace to you

What I have said does not have any effect on the value of the sacrifice of Christ Jesus. You just do not trust in the sovereignty of God unless it fits into your theology.
Psalms 145:18 The LORD is near to all who call upon Him, To all who call upon Him in truth.
Psalms 145:19 He will fulfill the desire of those who fear Him; He also will hear their cry and save them.
Psalms 145:20 The LORD preserves all who love Him, But all the wicked He will destroy.

Psalms 145:19 sure sounds like
Romans 10:13 For "WHOEVER CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED."

Yet you keep saying that God can not be sovereign enough to save those that do not hear the correct words. You seem to valve using the correct words more then the sovereignty of God.

So it seems you do ignore scripture.

 

[Dave G]

According to Calvinism, God takes pleasure in tormenting people for all eternity with hellfire because it gives Him glory.

I've never seen or heard of a "Calvinist" who teaches this, though there may be some I'm not aware of who do or did.

According to other theological systems, God hates having to do this because the very people whom He in His justice must punish with eternal hellfire, for their refusal to believe on Christ, are people that He loves.

Yes, I have indeed heard this preached from pulpits, on radio and on television, as well as having seen it in print... for decades.
I'm also aware that this, or something very much like it, has been preached by many now for literally centuries.

Does God delight in burning people in Hell?

No ( Ezekiel 18:23, Ezekiel 33:11 ).


That said, If you will permit a question from me...

According to what the Scriptures teach ( not men ), does God love anyone that He sends to Hell (and from there, to eternal punishment in the Lake of Fire)?

For reference, please see Psalms 5, Psalms 9, Psalms 10, Psalms 11, Psalms 14, Proverbs 15:29, John 9:31 and many, many others... and then ( and this is my hope ) carefully compare and contrast what is said in those to what is said in John 3.

 

[Silverhair]

@canadyjd what you do not seem to be able to grasp is that I do not deny salvation through faith in Christ Jesus but what I also do not deny is the love of God for all of His creation. You want to limit our sovereign God I do not.

 

[AustinC]

@canadyjd what you do not seem to be able to grasp is that I do not deny salvation through faith in Christ Jesus but what I also do not deny is the love of God for all of His creation. You want to limit our sovereign God I do not.

You just deny salvation by grace. You attribute faith to human will and thus remove grace from the process.
Your idea of love denies justice and thus makes God unloving by ignoring justice.
Thus you have no belief in God's sovereignty and full belief in man's autonomous sovereignty.