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How long will it take to give your country away?

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  1. Wingman68

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    In 2015, the floodgates opened when the EU, under Angela Merkel, invited North Africa and the Middle East to invade Europe.

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    Image: 140,000 Muslims attend an Eid celebration in Birmingham, England. YouTube screen grab.

    The result of England’s stealth totalitarianism is plain for all to see: Britain is becoming a Muslim-majority country. Giulio Meotti discusses the results of leftist fealty to multiculturalism in a detailed essay:


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    The most popular name among those born in England in 2022 is Mohammed.

    Fewer than half the people in England and Wales are now Christian, the recent census revealed, with atheism and Islam gaining ground. For the first time since the 7th century AD, England is no longer majority-Christian. That was 1,300 years ago, when the islands were converted from paganism to Christianity. In 2011, in the previous census, Christians numbered 59% of the population. Now, they number 46%.
    The result is that Muslim-driven sectarian violence is rising, with Muslims attacking Christians and Hindus.

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    As Peter Hammond concluded in Slavery, Terrorism & Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat, when an immigrant Muslim population reaches a certain percentage, it’s game over for the preexisting culture. The conclusions in Hammond’s book are most frequently summarized as follows:

    As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.


    At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.


    From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.


    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

    When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.


    After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues….


    At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare....


    From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia law as a weapon, and jizya, the tax placed on infidels….


    After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some state-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim….

    100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word….

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    Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

    We’re no longer at the point where we ask, “Whither England?” Instead, the statement is “wither England.”

    By the way, Muslims are among the millions crossing our now-broken and open Southern border.
     
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  2. RighteousnessTemperance&

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    From the comments:

    The disturbing feature of this dramatic demographic change to the United Kingdom, is that it has happened with out the concurrence of the native British population, and that any opposition to the mass immigration is denounced as racialism, Islamophobia, xenophobia.

    In multicultural Briton it appears that while all racial group and religions are claimed to be equal, the white indigenous British people and Christianity are less equal. White criticising the excesses and intolerance of Islam is inciting hatred, Christianity is fair game.

    Let what has happened in France, Belgium, Sweden and Britain be fair warning to those European and Christian based societies, time is running out for enlightened Western Christian societies. Continue to allow mass alien cultured immigration and your societies will be destroyed. Such an attitude is no longer xenophobia, it is necessary for the survival of one's culture and society.​
     
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    Immigration is not the only problem. Birth rates are a cause of concern too. The native peoples of most first world countries have birth rates that are less than that needed for a flat population growth rate. But the Muslim populations in first world nations generally have larger families. Once they get to two or three percent of the population, cutting off immigration will not stop them from becoming the dominant religious group. Four kids per couple in one generation becomes eight in a generation and sixteen in two. It only multiplies in growth faster from there.
     
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  4. Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin

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    Baptists, Presbyterians, Mennonites, Amish and Catholics all have enough kids at far above the replacement level. The problem is the powers-that-be insist on importing additional immigrants into the U.S to out compete the natural-born Americans. This depresses wages, balkanizes the U.S and destroys Christian-based civil society while giving the Democrats a solid voting block that they otherwise wouldn't have because the Democrats murder their children.

    If we stopped mass immigration the Liberal power base would be overwhelmed by Christian's kids within a couple generations.
     
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    As Christians we are exiles here. We cannot give away a country that is not even ours. The title of the OP reveals a faulty understanding of the Christian's purpose here on earth.
     
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    Only if you're a Premill.

    The Postmill Christian would say that our purpose is to over time work to create a world more like Christ's teachings, where the number of Saved is so overwhelming that all of the earth becomes in submission to Christ's teachings bringing in the Millennium reign of righteousness. Then at the end of the reign Christ will come a second time and a new earth and new heavens will be made.

    So, the country is ours, it belongs to Christ and His followers as He has been given all power over it, we just need to start exercising Christian authority on it to bring the nation in subjection to Christ's commands in obedience to the Great Commission:
    "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you..."
     
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    How long will it take to hive our country away?

    Given your recent affirmation that fraud allows for the termination of parts of the US Constitution.....you? Not long. In fact, in ways you already have.
     
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    Sounds like a free will theory where humans create their own utopia by convincing the majority to choose Jesus and then ruling in Jesus stead until he returns.
    But how could any Bible reader come up with that theory?
     
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    How long will it take to give your country away?

    Can't say fer sure, but based on many of the comments of the TDS folks on this board it just may be an already done deal. Just haven't "legalized" it yet. Seems that with he attitude of many the election in '24 will seal the deal. (GOTTA GET ALL THE PAPER-WORK JUST RIGHT, YA KNOW!!)

     
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    I agree.

    Before the 2020 election the Dems all but bragged about a progressive stance on the US Constitution ("all but" being generous).

    Now the Constitution is being attacked from leftiststs and the alt-right.

    There are perhaps exceptions, but more and more it seems politicians are more concerned about their political career than the nation.
     
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    You are trolling me. It is not appropriate or acceptable, but you enjoy it. You also enjoy it when those you don’t agree with leave. I think it’s called drunk on power. It’s a leftist trait. Bwahahaha. Please reference where you come up with my ‘agreement’ to terminate parts of the Constitution? I would say parts have already been terminated by your side who were A OK with mandating, & firing people over their refusal to take a medical experiment, & taking away their free speech, but it’s what I expect from you.
     
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  12. JonC

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    My side? I am a constitutionalist. I do not advocate your position, but that does not mean I advocate the Dems either.

    I do not advocate nullifying any part of the US Constitution.

    The reason is we have to have a standard of government. This is established, in the US, with the US Constitution.

    The Constitution is the basis, or the foundation, upon which our nation is governed. The United States is a Constitutional Republic. That means that there are rules by which the citizens of the US and the government are to follow.

    We cannot suspend, terminate, or nullify those rules.

    That you seem so ignorant of our Constitution and our history is, frankly, alarming. You should have learned of American history, and our system of government, as a child.
     
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    Point is when we weaken, or allow people to weaken, the US Constitution then we weaken the nation.

    We may be tempted to circumvent the Constitution to fight an evil (like the DNC, or fraud), but when we do then we pave the way for a more fraud as we keep the Constitution merely as a symbol.

    If we bypass the Constitution today then we cannot complain that others bypass the Constitution tomorrow.

    This does not mean nothing should be done. But it does mean those who do something need to think it through carefully and use - not abuse - the Constitution.

    The Democrat agenda is to suppress the Christian voice. They seek to support ANY religion as long as it is not Christianity. They equate Christianity with racism and oppression.

    We have to be better than the World. We have to do better.
     
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    This ^^^

    The DNC platform is anti-Christian. It supports tolerance to ALL religions as long as it is not Christianity.

    Problem is this idea is becoming the norm. It is spreading way beyond the DNC. It is what the government is teaching in our schools and colleges.

    We are supposed to somehow be apologetic for being born with white skin. We are supposed to admit that Christianity is evil. We are supposed to advocate (not just let the world be the world but advocate) evil.

    Per the World - speak the truth against Islam, against transgender, against the suppression of speech, etc. and you are a racist.

    Let's face it, anybody who is a Christian and stands on Christian principles will be labeled by some as a racist. Point is not to change because of what people call us.
     
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    We are called to speak prophetically, "Thus saith the Lord" even if they don't listen.
    *Ezekiel 33:30-33*
    “As for you, son of man, your people who talk together about you by the walls and at the doors of the houses, say to one another, each to his brother, ‘Come, and hear what the word is that comes from the Lord.’ And they come to you as people come, and they sit before you as my people, and they hear what you say but they will not do it; for with lustful talk in their mouths they act; their heart is set on their gain. And behold, you are to them like one who sings lustful songs with a beautiful voice and plays well on an instrument, for they hear what you say, but they will not do it. When this comes—and come it will!—then they will know that a prophet has been among them.”
     
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    My point is they will call is names. That shouldn't make us stop.
     
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    Of course not. God told Ezekiel that the people he spoke to would be hard hearted, but God would make Ezekiel tougher still.
     
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    Considering that it's a classically reformed position, and the position that founded this country, that argument would be a hard row to hoe haha
     
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    It is a manifest destiny view and it was a twisted view of the early father's in the US that has little to do with soteriology.
     
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