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Man was in Pangaea

AustinC

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You posted no science that addresses the issue. It is clear you cannot. You are welcome to your beliefs. I understand the bible record is very true. You have said nothing that challenges that or that even addresses the issue in any direct or meaningful way. I would retreat if I were you also.
Radiometric Dating From a Christian Perspective

You tire me with your ignorance of both science and God's word.
You have shown us nothing that remotely connects your ideas to either God's word or to legitimate science.
You are free to hold your view, but please don't push it on the rest of us who see your theory as hocum.
 

dad2

Active Member
Radiometric Dating From a Christian Perspective

You tire me with your ignorance of both science and God's word.
You have shown us nothing that remotely connects your ideas to either God's word or to legitimate science.
You are free to hold your view, but please don't push it on the rest of us who see your theory as hocum.
If you are claiming that either nature on earth was the same as now, or that God did not create all things, then be clear. The bible is not a theory. There is no legitimate science that deals with what nature or life was like in Noah's day. You obviously have no science case here or we would have seen it. Please do not pretend you have a bible case that suggests that the earth may not have been divided in the days of Peleg.
The truth of the matter is that you have neither a bible case nor any fact or evidence or science that you have posted.
 
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KenH

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Like I would care what you think when the bible is clear?

Then why are you presenting your posts on this board for comment, then?

Then I suggest pages 185-195 in the link to William Hendriksen's commentary that I posted above if you want to read a big strong explanation.
 

37818

Well-Known Member
Then I suggest pages 185-195 in the link to William Hendriksen's commentary that I posted above.
Down to 10 pages. Page 185, Re: Revelation 20:1-. . . "Bear in mind, however, that all this is symbolism."

In Page 186, ". . . Thus, Satan remains ‘locked up’ for a thousand years. After that he must be loosed for a short time.
What is the meaning of this symbol?
1 In order to arrive at
the real meaning of the binding and hurling into the abyss’ of
Satan we must first ask the question, just what meaning or
value did this passage have for the persecuted Christians of John’s day? . . ."

Symbolism. Stop.

You list each symbol.
What each symbol means.

Where from Scripture it's meaning is found.

Make it simple.
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
Down to 10 pages. Page 185, Re: Revelation 20:1-. . . "Bear in mind, however, that all this is symbolism."

In Page 186, ". . . Thus, Satan remains ‘locked up’ for a thousand years. After that he must be loosed for a short time.
What is the meaning of this symbol?
1 In order to arrive at
the real meaning of the binding and hurling into the abyss’ of
Satan we must first ask the question, just what meaning or
value did this passage have for the persecuted Christians of John’s day? . . ."

Symbolism. Stop.

You list each symbol.
What each symbol means.

Where from Scripture it's meaning is found.

Make it simple.

Revelation is a book of symbols, says so in the very first verse of the book.
 

37818

Well-Known Member
Revelation is a book of symbols, says so in the very first verse of the book.
Where? Revelation 1:1-2, "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. . . ."

And there is what is explicitly explained,

Revelation 1:20, ,". . . The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. . . ."
 

AustinC

Well-Known Member
If you are claiming that either nature on earth was the same as now, or that God did not create all things, then be clear.
We cannot know, for sure, what the earth looked like before the flood. During the flood there could have been a massive shift in the Earth's mantle, with massive uplift and change. God does not give us geological data for us to know (frankly, I don't think God cares if we ever know).

Where have I ever said that God did not create all things? Of course God created all things. The laws of nature, which God established, are only suspended by God himself.

The bible is not a theory.
I never made that claim.
I said that the Bible is not written to be a Science book. It is not meant to be read as a science book. It is meant to be read as a Revelation of Yahweh to mankind.

There is no legitimate science that deals with what nature or life was like in Noah's day.
Humans can only observe the earth and record what we see. We write a hypothesis and we test the hypothesis. That is science. Science is limited and narrow in focus. It originally was umbrellad under philosophy.

You obviously have no science case here or we would have seen it.
Clearly you never read the link I provided from a deeply respected, God fearing, scientist on radiometric dating from a Christian perspective. This scientist now has two instruments on the last two mars rovers. He knows what he is talking about regarding rocks. You must not have read his paper.

Please do not pretend you have a bible case that suggests that the earth may not have been divided in the days of Peleg.
Back at you. The Bible says God divided people by languages. It never talks about "Pangaea." That is YOU plucking a term from a man-made science book and forcing it into the Bible. Own that one!

*Genesis 11:1-9,16-19*
Now the whole earth had one language and the same words. And as people migrated from the east, they found a plain in the land of Shinar and settled there. And they said to one another, “Come, let us make bricks, and burn them thoroughly.” And they had brick for stone, and bitumen for mortar. Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be dispersed over the face of the whole earth.” And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of man had built. And the Lord said, “Behold, they are one people, and they have all one language, and this is only the beginning of what they will do. And nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and there confuse their language, so that they may not understand one another’s speech.” So the Lord dispersed them from there over the face of all the earth, and they left off building the city. Therefore its name was called Babel, because there the Lord confused the language of all the earth. And from there the Lord dispersed them over the face of all the earth.

When Eber had lived 34 years, he fathered Peleg. And Eber lived after he fathered Peleg 430 years and had other sons and daughters. When Peleg had lived 30 years, he fathered Reu. And Peleg lived after he fathered Reu 209 years and had other sons and daughters.



The truth of the matter is that you have neither a bible case nor any fact or evidence or science that you have posted.
The truth of the matter is that neither the Bible, nor science, supports your assertion. I have shown this to be true. Now, will you accept that I have shown you?
 

dad2

Active Member
Then why are you presenting your posts on this board for comment, then?

Then I suggest pages 185-195 in the link to William Hendriksen's commentary that I posted above if you want to read a big strong explanation.
There must be some basic points you think are 'strong'. What are they?
 

37818

Well-Known Member
"signified"
A meaning, not a symbol.
Like in John 12:32-33, ". . . And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. This he said, signifying what death he should die. . . ."
Now Revelation revealed two things, Revelation 1:19, ". . . the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter; . . ."

Shorty in verse 1 meaning suddenly.
 
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KenH

Well-Known Member
A meaning, not a symbol.
Like in John 12:32-33, ". . . And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. This he said, signifying what death he should die. . . ."
Now Revelation revealed two things, Revelation 1:19, ". . . the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter; . . ."

Shorty in verse 1 meaning suddenly.

I really don't like to argue over eschatology as there are no telling how many(hundreds? thousands? tens of thousands?) of ideas that have been hashed about for many centuries.

I like William Hendriksen's commentary because it makes the most sense based on taking the Bible as a whole, and not taking symbolic verses here and there in Revelation and then interpreting everything else in the Bible based on symbolic verses in an apocalyptic book at the end of the Bible, especially since the bottom line is that NONE of us have seen the end of the world and I am quite certain that NONE of us know exactly how it will all take place.
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
How has this thread morphed into "How do we interpret Revelation?" Can that topic move elsewhere?

Sorry. @dad2 introduced eschatology in his post #5 in this thread about man living again for centuries, and that was like waving a red flag in front of my face. :D I'll bow out now. Carry on!
 
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