Man was in Pangaea

In context, the fact that the future will be like the past is quite relevant. The present world stands out as the exception.

I found another interesting point on the supercontinent issue last night.

I do not know how long the change took. I have assumed it was sudden, like the sudden confusion of tongues. However, I suppose we could have a maximum timeframe that was also possible. An example is perhaps the change took place in 'the days of Peleg'

So we know the flood happened. Later we see a lot of (if not most or all) people had moved to the east. For some reason, this large population was on the move and coming from the east.

Gen 11:1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.

So why were they journeying one might ask? Why not stay where they were? They seem to migrate for some reason and then start over and build a city. Why? We don't know. If we consider that these changes happened in the days of Peleg, and that was the days when the earth was divided, it seems to make sense. Perhaps wherever they were was near water (such as what today is the Persian Gulf area or something) and the separation had already started and scared them!? Maybe they realized that with that sort of massive land movement starting to happen, mankind would get scattered all over on various land masses that were now starting to move?! That would fit with the short description we have in Gen.

Gen 11:4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

Apparently having people separate and scatter was God's plan.

Gen 11:8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

So I assume that Pangea was still together when they got scatters for the most part. Then man migrates all over. Then the continents separate and finish the scattering job. That is a good working scenario for the time after the flood.

 

That relates to the days of Peleg, how?

 

WE can know how long people lived and that we all were created at the same time, and that plants grew fast and that spirits lived on earth among men and married women, and where the ark landed etc. We know man was scattered. We have many clues about what happened.

Who says that when the millennium comes our current laws are merely suspended? Who says that the laws that were in Adam's day were merely 'suspended'? There is no reason to believe that. They were changed. It is different now and will be different again in the future. I never mentioned anything about some little suspension.

The bible has the record of beginnings. Science does not. Why would we degrade and relegate the bible to a science level? Science cannot deal with creation issues period. Get over it.


[/QUOTE]Humans can only observe the earth and record what we see. [/QUOTE]
Great then they should be quiet about what will be or what was! The bible does tell us about all of these things. Science is stuck in the present only.

[/QUOTE]We write a hypothesis and we test the hypothesis. That is science. Science is limited and narrow in focus. It originally was umbrellad under philosophy. [/QUOTE] Who cares what it is or what you think it is? It is useless. Irrelevant in creation matters. Basically it is a waste of a word. If you have science that applies to the topic just post it. I would say that the bible agrees with all real science. Example: science can tell us the world was together at some time. Science cannot tell us about life at that time, or when it changed etc. That is all total belief and not any actual science.

I might as well ask Mickey Mouse! How would some rover worker know about what nature was like in Adam's day? How would they know if there was even any radioactivity as we know it then? Try to comprehend that science really does not deal in these things and cannot. Period.

Pangea is just a word modern man uses to envision the time when we know the world was together. Don't put too much stock in that word. We do know man was together and that God scattered them good and proper.



[/QUOTE]The truth of the matter is that neither the Bible, [/QUOTE]

False. The world being together and then God scattering man all over and the earth being split is absolutely bible.

Real science does not in any way oppose the bible record. That record by the way is not anyone's 'assertion'. Only God's assertion.

 

No problem if you have nothing to contribute to the discussion of the bible record and the world that was then why would we expect you to post??

Of course things will again be similar to the world that was in the time after Jesus returns to earth to rule. The fast growth of plants, the long lifespans, spirits living among men etc.

 

It is clear that there is no science that opposes a realistic belief in the Genesis record.
It is also clear that you have no bible case. Just whining apparently.

I have also provided the passages. Since it is pretty well just Gen 11, and 10 that deals with the earth being divided and the tower of Babel, that is not hard to do. Not sure how you think that also 'providing the bible text' helps you in any way in your attempt to cast aspersions upon the story.

I hold a position that no one 'in the church' or out of it can dispute apparently. Certainly not you so far.

 

? Who declares that to be unrealistic and why? If we know the land was all together one time, and it moved by the present time, then obviously they had to have moved.

It does say the earth was split actually and when. It does say man was scattered. Why pretend otherwise?

Would they all be bible believers? Would any of the scientists specialize in these matters? Would any scientist know whether the laws were the same back then? If not, laughing would be maniacal. Why do we not hear any of them here stating a case? I think you are worried about the opinions of men for nothing.

Explain how God scattering the peoples and the world splitting as the bible records is not realistic exactly? The word divide means this


"Brown-Driver-Briggs'
1) to divide, split

1a) (Niphal) to be split, be divided

1b) (Piel)

1b1) to split, cleave

1b2) to divide"
Interlinear Search for 'Genesis 10:25' - NAS with the BHS and NA26 - StudyLight.org

How is the clear bible not support? How is it fantasy? You don't get to declare it so. You could make a case if you had some idea about the issues and what you are talking about. We wait.

 

How would you know what people believed?

What church, what whole church? I have no idea what you are referring to. Unless you are making stuff up show the source. The bible has been here for a long time. Is there some 'church' that said there was no Peleg or split of the world? Is there some 'church' that says God did not scatter people? No Babel? Try to make cohesive statements.

 

Actually it is a moot point. Even if you could produce some church that felt there was no split as the bible says there was, it would be of no value. Not like anyone was there.

You seem to be hung up on using the word church and pretending you are the authority on what they all think on the matter. No support was posted though, funny that.

That is weird. Science cannot and does not even cover it. You want to pretend there should be peer reviewed articles about Genesis?? You have nothing to contribute in the way of a bible case or science on the topic.

Better to admit your ignorance and inability to discuss the issue intelligently than to falsely accuse and make pretentious strawman posts.

So here is your opportunity. If you have something relevant and rational, post it. We wait

 

As if you had some wisdom you just somehow couldn't post.
Genesis 10:25
And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.

Your posts so far have been like Joktan

Joktan = “smallness”

Interlinear Search for 'Genesis 10:25' - NAS with the BHS and NA26 - StudyLight.org

 

Lurkers. Notice that when the self righteous false accusers do try to use the word they do so in a way vipers do? (trying to hurt or destroy rather than shed light or speak life).

Anyhow thanks for showing you have no bible case to offer whatsoever. (it goes without saying that you also have no science)

Cheers