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If The Electric Car Revolution Sputters, Hydrogen Could Still Succeed

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  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Faith and repentance are gifts from God that He gives to His elect, not the reprobates.
     
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    Stalinists have always understood the color red to be the color best represented for their regime! How many fingers comrade?
     
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  3. KenH

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    Nope.

    "God's will determines all the choices and circumstances of his creatures, so that nothing is up to man's "free will." In fact, because God is completely sovereign, man has no free will:

    All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be. (Psalms 139:16)

    The LORD works out everything for his own ends – even the wicked for a day of disaster. (Proverbs 16:4)

    In his heart a man plans his course, but the LORD determines his steps. (Proverbs 16:9)

    A man's steps are directed by the LORD. How then can anyone understand his own way? (Proverbs 20:24)

    The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD; he directs it like a watercourse wherever he pleases. (Proverbs 21:1)

    All the peoples of the earth are regarded as nothing. He does as he pleases with the powers of heaven and the peoples of the earth. No one can hold back his hand or say to him: "What have you done?" (Daniel 4:35)

    Now listen, you who say, "Today or tomorrow we will go to this or that city, spend a year there, carry on business and make money." Why, you do not even know what will happen tomorrow. What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes. Instead, you ought to say, "If it is the Lord's will, we will live and do this or that." (James 4:13-15)

    All things are decided and caused by God – nothing is free from his control, and he has not chosen to forego his control on anything. The doctrine is repulsive to those who abhor the rule and honor of God, and so they oppose it. But the doctrine is a source of comfort and celebration to those who love him. Why would we want it any other way, than for God to rule over all things? And what better life can we wish for, than to be ruled by God?

    The doctrine contradicts the religious tradition that God does not decree evil or that he does not cause evil. Of course God does not make decrees against his other decrees. Since God is not insane, he has only one will, one desire. However, there is no problem for him to issue a decree that causes his creatures to violate his precepts. Whereas decrees are declarations of intentions about things that he would cause to happen, precepts are declarations of definitions, not intentions, and do not overlap with the decrees. It must be true that God decrees and causes events that are contrary to his precepts; otherwise, there could be no evil, but there is indeed evil. Therefore, God must be the metaphysical author of sin and evil.

    This does not mean that God himself is evil. To metaphysically cause evil and to morally commit evil are two different things. One is a matter of ability to cause something, while the other is a matter of conformity to a principle. The Bible teaches that God is the one who defines right and wrong, and that sin is a transgression of God's law. Therefore, for God to commit evil by causing evil – for this to be bad or wrong – he must declare a moral law that forbids himself to decree or to cause evil, that is, to decree or to cause his creatures to transgress his law. There is no biblical basis to suppose that God has declared such a law against himself. Indeed, the Bible teaches that all that God says and does are right and good. If he says it, it must be true. If he does it, it must be good. Therefore, since God is sovereign and there is evil, God must be the cause of evil, and since he is the cause of evil, it must be right and good for him to be the cause of evil.

    There is no divine law that says God would be wrong if he were to be the cause of evil. Why, then, do men assume that it would be evil for God to be the author of sin? What law would God transgress? He would transgress the law of men, or what men have imposed upon him to define what a righteous God must or must not do. This is the sinister truth behind the religious tradition that says God is not the author of sin, for if he were to be such, it would mean that he has transgressed a law that men has declared against him. The necessary conclusion is that the doctrine that God is not the author of sin, or that it is blasphemy and heresy to say that he is, is itself the real blasphemy and heresy. Unless God is the author of sin and evil, he is not completely sovereign, and he is not God. Therefore, to deny that God is the author of sin and evil is to deny God.

    The Bible teaches that God's decrees and actions are always right and good. Since he is completely sovereign, and there is evil in this universe, this means that he is the one who decrees and causes evil in this universe. But since his decrees and actions are always right and good, then this means that it is right and good that he is the one who decrees and causes evil in this universe. The very fact that he decrees and causes evil means that it is right and good for him to do so.58 There is no authority or standard higher than God by which to condemn him. If he thinks that it is good for him to cause evil, then it is good for him to cause evil.

    This does not mean that evil is good, which would be a contradiction. Sin is defined as a transgression of God's moral law, and when we say that God is the author of sin, we are saying that God is the metaphysical cause of a creature's transgression of God's moral law. God transgresses no moral law, since there is no moral law against what he does, but he causes the creature to transgress. Morality relates to moral law. But there is no moral law against sovereign metaphysical power. It is right and good for God to metaphysically cause evil, just because he does it, and because he has not declared himself wrong for doing it. It is wrong for man to morally commit evil, because God has declared man wrong for doing it, although it is God who metaphysically causes man to do it. Therefore, God remains righteous, and the sinner remains evil. The distinctions are clear. There is no paradox or contradiction, and also no biblical or logical basis for objection against the doctrine.

    Does this make God a tyrant? If the word simply means, "an absolute ruler,"59 then of course God is a tyrant. And since he is the sole moral authority, the very fact that he is a tyrant means that he ought to be one, that it is good and just for him to be one. The negative connotations of the word apply only to human beings, since no man is worthy of absolute authority or capable to wield it. But God is "an absolute ruler" – that is what it means to be God."

    - excerpt from Vincent Cheung's Systematic Theology
     
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    On the day that Christ returns this present heavens and earth will be immediately done away with and replaced with the new heavens and the new earth. Christ will be above all, just as He is now. Puny mankind, mere worms, never have and never will frustrate God's will.

    "All the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou? - Daniel 4:35

    Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure. - Isaiah 46:9-10
     
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    So God preprogrammed some to repent and some to not?

    Robots?

    If man is made in the image and likeness of God, we are not automatons, we will have a spark and share of that same sovereignty, the ability of free choice.

    “You seduced me, LORD, and I am seduced”

    There is nothing to seduce in a robot, it does what you program it to do.

    “I thank you for the wonder of my being.”

    We are wonderous beyond all other creatures or created things. We are Sons of God, we are embers of The Same Light.

    You are not earth bound, you are Eagles.

    When Lucifer saw this mere nothing creature granted such incredible dignity, he rebelled in pride and violent jealously.

    Lucifer was amazing in the cosmic power he wielded, not just in the known and unknown universe, but all across the spiritual realm.
    He became the opposite of what he was created to be, driven out by Michael an Arch Angel

    Man then became the sole focus of now Satan’s enmity, and rebellion against God. The Light he bore burned him to beyond the Light.

    The angels had full knowledge at the time of rebellion and could not be forgiven, a time of full knowledge will be soon granted man, the mystery of iniquity revealed. A time of decision.

    As for me and my house, we will serve The Lord.
     
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    @Cathode What you wrote above is possibly the most God-dishonoring, Satan-honoring, man-glorifying pretentious nonsense of a post I have ever read on Baptist Board. I have no idea where you came up with that mess but it sure wasn't from the Bible.

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    A lot Western leftist think tank allies, and desperate soviet diplomats gathered secretly in Norway before the fall of the Soviet Union. They decided on the Fabian socialist solution of slow subversion and to feign an end to communism.

    Green politics followed hard upon the soviet downfall. Overt strategy was replaced by covert strategy. America had built such a formidable arsenal, with submarine delivered long range nuclear artillery ( classified ), and the “Star Wars program “, overt operations became untenable.
    The planets air would become unbreathable.
    Democrats and Rinos, the natural allies of the soviets, slowly subverted America by ideological subversion in Media, Hollywood, Finance, Universities and government bureaucracy. Till today we have blue hair transtesticle clowns running the military.

    “ We will destroy you, and you will not know it has happened “

    “How do you defeat a gigantic powerful moron, you give him a lollipop laced with some ....” That’s how they think. It won’t happen over night, but it will happen.

    Fabian socialism works by two steps forward and one step back. It’s hydraulic and doesn’t stop ratcheting. The enemies of God do not sleep day or night.

    Many in America now do not know whether they are Arthur or Martha , let alone know how to defend the free world.
     
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    You haven’t said how.
     
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    You disagree that we are made in the image and likeness of God?
     
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    You disagree that Lucifer was the an angel of God before he rebelled and became satan?
     
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    You think we are robots of God, not Sons of God?
     
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    @Cathode In your thinking, you build up Satan, you build up man, and you relegate God to pretty much just an observer. Your idea of God is that he is sort of like a worker at Walmart - "Clean up in aisle 4."

    Your idea of God is not the God who revealed himself in the Bible.
     
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    If my understanding is a steaming poo, tell me what makes it steaming poo.
     
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    The sons of God are those whom He elected to save before the world began and whose sins He imputed to His Son in order for His Son to pay for their sins, and God sent His Son to live out a perfect righteousness as the God-Man that God then imputed to His elect.
     
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    The God of the Bible does not share His glory with another - Isaiah 42:8 "I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another" - be it Satan or mankind.
     
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    My idea of God is that of a Father who sent His only Son to be a man like me, only without sin. Like the Bible says.

    The bible tells me I am made in the image and likeness of God.

    The bible tells me to choose life over death.

    What of these do you disagree?
     
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    The elect are those in the foreknowledge of God who would choose to repent and believe in Jesus.
     
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    “And the Glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:”
     
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    You can't choose unless the Holy Spirit regenerates you and grants you the gift of faith and repentance.

    Ephesians 2:8-10 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

    Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

    Philippians 1:19 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
     
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    Nope. Just more man-glorifying posting by you. God is not a mere bystander, hoping that someone will "choose" correctly.
     
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