Featured The True Gospel of Christ's Saving Death

Maybe some. But there are more Biblical texts claiming to have explained away such Scriptures, than any text to disallow the Biblical truth of the general redemption. 1 John 1:2, 2 Timothy 2:6, etc.

 

Did you mean to quote those two verses? I don't think I get anything from them, O.P.-wise.

 

". . . And He is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. . . . "

". . . Who gave Himself a ransom for all, . . ."

 

I John 2:2

I don't know if you have a hermenutic of, "it just jumps right off the page at me to mean so and so", but I count six more times the word, "world", is used in just these three verses, from the same chapter.

And I dare say that you wouldn't give them all those six the same exact meaning, much less the same meaning of "world", in I John 2:2; "...for the sins of the whole world. . ."

I John 2:15-17;

15 "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world.

"If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

16 "For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

17 "And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever."

So, when you connect the dots, does "world", in "...for the sins of the whole world..", have to have a drop dead automatic meaning of "all without exception", without any prospect of reconsidering that?

That one "just jumps right off the page" at you?

Considering a meaning of "the Gentile world, in addition to the world of the Jews", is beyond the limits of reason?

Including Gentiles to have their sins forgiven, in Salvation, seemed to be major point made throughout the New Testament.

I Timothy 2:6.

Even if we ignore a qualifying verse like Matthew 20:28, that by using the meaning of "all without exception", in I Timothy 2:6, creates a contradiction in the scriptures;

Matthew 20:28; "Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many."

Vs ". . . Who gave Himself a ransom for all, . . ."


The first two verses in the same chapter, I Timothy 2:1,2, have their own qualifiers for the word, "all", in I Timothy 2:6; ". . . Who gave Himself a ransom for all, . . ."

1 "I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

2 "For kings, and for all that are in authority;..."

It seems as if it would be probable to take under consideration an interpretation of, " . . Who gave Himself a ransom for all, . . .", as including Kings and all that are in authority.

Kind of fits like a hand in a glove.

In other words, "don't leave the the mighty and noble out of your prayers, because Jesus didn't leave all of them without salvation".

I Corinthians 1:26; "For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:"

 

If the author changed his premise from "elect" to "believers", it would make more sense.

 

1 John 5:19, ". . . And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. . . ."
John 17:9, ". . . . I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. . . ."
John 6:39, ". . . And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. . . ."

 

Matthew 20:16, ". . . So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen. . . ."
Matthew 7:13-14, ". . . Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

 

You do realize that these scriptures teach a Limited Atonement/ Particular Redemption, right?

Just like every other verse in the Bible?

 

I just wrote the following to MrW on another thread:

Many were called to what?

Salvation?

If so, it was with a General/Outward and always Ineffectual, but nevertheless, sincere call.

Come unto Me.

You will not come into Me.

So, they weren't chosen by God to Salvation and then wound up lost.

Many are called by a GENERAL call from the Word and the Gospel, OUTWARDLY, superficially, again, without a Saving Spiritual experience of Salvation and that GENERAL/ OUTWARD call is always Ineffective to bring Salvation.

As below, the SPECIFIC/ INWARD call, in the soul, that is the Spiritual Work of God to Give genuine belief is Always Effectual.

When God calls His chosen people through the Word, He Enables them to hear it.

He Gives them hearing ears, to hear Spiritually, the call of their Great Shepard to His sheep.

They are the few that are Chosen and the few that find it, when they are Effectually Cally, Specifically/ Inwardly by being Given the Enabling Spirit in the New Birth, to now be willing to come to Jesus.

 

False. They do not teach universalism. Big difference.

 

Chosen meaning elect. Elect which happens when one is saved not before.

 

The division on the true gospel - it's true atonement. No Scripture disallows the general redemption. Particular redemption is an interpretation.

 

The word of God teaches no such thing.

 

No such teaching of universalism.