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    Mark 15:42

    Geneva Bible, ". . . And nowe when the night was come (because it was the day of the preparation that is before the Sabbath) . . . ."

    KJV, ". . . And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, . . ."

    JW NWT, ". . . Now as it was already late in the afternoon, and since it was Preparation, that is, the day before the Sabbath, . . ."

    Note the Jewish Preparation Day begins our Thursday evening and ends with our Friday evening with the beginning of the Sabbath.
     
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    Not sure of the purpose of this thread, but assuming the two (KJV and GB) versions differ, evening versus night, I think it is a distinction without a difference. The Greek word (translated evening) can be used for from 3 to 6 PM, or from 6 PM to sundown (night). But the word translated as "now" is frequently used to mean "already" thus when evening had already come refers to the beginning of Preparation Day.
     
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    That is the Sabbath recorded in Mark, however, there is another one mentioned in John.

    That is the key to the mystery, I believe.

    This fellow goes about it in terms of the spices.

    Three Days and Three Nights: The Women hold the Key - Creator Clues - Bible Study Lessons for Everyone

    "Following the spices will lead you to an apparent contradiction in the Gospel accounts of the burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

    "We read that the women bought the spices after the Sabbath and prepared the spices before the Sabbath.

    "This raises a serious question:

    "How is it possible to buy the spices AFTER the Sabbath (Mark 16:1)

    "AND prepare the spices BEFORE the Sabbath (Luke 23:56)?

    "A common mistake that people make when reading these accounts, is to assume that the gospel writers are referring to the same Sabbath day.

    "But in John 19:31 we read something that seems like maybe another superfluous or unnecessary detail, yet it is crucial to our understanding of the chronology of these events: “(for that sabbath day was an high day,)”.

    "The other gospel writers do not mention it, yet John does.

    "So what does it mean?

    "Simply put, it means that the Sabbath day, the day immediately after the death and burial of Jesus, was not a normal Sabbath.

    "(I will not enter into the details in this post and you can read more about in a subsequent post about the Feasts of Jehovah and their relevance to the last week of the life of Christ).

    "Suffice to say, that this Sabbath is a likely reference to the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, a feast that initiated at the setting of the sun on the Passover day.


    "It was a day when no servile work was to be done, making it a “day of rest” or a “sabbath day”.

    "The first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread was a Holy Convocation, a special “high” day.


    "Those who insist that the Sabbath’s mentioned are the same one, would suggest that the women must have brought a small amount of spices for the actual burial and then were bringing the bulk of the spices on the first day of the week when they went back to visit the tomb."

    From: Three Days and Three Nights: A Spicy Solution - Creator Clues - Bible Study Lessons for Everyone

    "And There They Are:
    Three Days and Three Nights."

    "When Jesus gave the wicked and adulterous generation the sign of the prophet Jonah, He didn’t give them a vague, hard to understand sign.

    "He gave them, what I would consider, the most direct, and easy to understand sign they could have received.

    "When Jesus spoke, He emphasized the three days and three nights part of the story.

    "That, in and of itself, should for us, place emphasis on this aspect of the sign.

    "When we look at the sequence of events with regards to the women buying and preparing the spices, we notice that between His burial and His resurrection, there are three days.

    "No partial days, no accommodation of tradition, but a literal three days.

    1. The Sabbath day (which was a high day)
    2. The day they bought and prepared the spices
    3. The Sabbath day (which was the weekly Sabbath or Saturday)
    "No gymnastics and no contortions, just three days.

    "I will leave you to ponder this. In a subsequent post called Three Days and Three Nights: Every Jot and Tittle, I will look at what this means with regards to the day of the week that corresponds to the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and also look at pinpointing the moment of His resurrection.

    "I don’t think that you will be surprised to find out how accurately the Scriptures prophesied the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, nor how accurately Jesus Christ fulfilled what was prophesied of Him in His death, burial and resurrection."

    From: Three Days and Three Nights: Every Jot and Tittle - Creator Clues - Bible Study Lessons for Everyone

    "The Knock Out: a Three Punch Combo"

    "I don’t think that you are surprised to find out how accurately the Scriptures prophesied the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, nor how accurately Jesus Christ fulfilled what was prophesied of Him in His death, burial and resurrection.

    "In the last week of His life and through to His resurrection, the Lord Jesus Christ fulfilled not one, nor only two, but three of the Feasts of Jehovah to the letter.

    • Feast of Passover: Jesus dies as the Passover Lamb
    • Feast of Unleavened Bread: Jesus is buried having died for our sins
    • Feast of Firstfruits: Jesus has risen from the dead
    "But there is still more.

    "The last post in this series will look at which day of the week Jesus died, and the moment of His resurrection."

    From: Three Days and Three Nights: Literally, Three Days and Three Nights - Creator Clues - Bible Study Lessons for Everyone

    "The Time of Jesus’ Burial"

    "The Gospel accounts are clear that Jesus was buried in the evening at the time of the setting sun.

    "This corresponds to the moment when the Jewish calendar went from the 14th to the 15th.

    "View the study on the Day According to Genesis 1:5 for more details on this concept (link pending).

    "In a literal sense, after Jesus expired (died) at 3pm on the 14th, he was buried at 6pm on the 14th literally at the start of the 15th (which was a Sabbath high day).

    "Remember that the sign that Jesus gave was, that the Son of Man would be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

    "This sign did not start at the moment of His death, but at the moment of His burial.

    "The Moment of Jesus’ Resurrection"

    "When the women went to the tomb around the break of dawn, it was likely somewhere around 6 am.

    "Many often confuse the time of the women going to the tomb as the time when Jesus rose from the dead.

    "As a side note, many also confuse the time of the earthquake with the time when Jesus rose from the dead.

    "As the Scriptures teach us, Jesus had already risen prior to the women going to the tomb in the early morning.

    "Additionally, the earthquake was not to let Jesus “out” of the tomb but rather to let people see “into” the tomb.

    "Jesus did not need the rock to be moved in order for Him to rise from the dead, but the people certainly needed the rock to be moved in order to be able to see that Jesus had risen from the dead.

    "Let us consider again the three statements: “the third day”, “after three days”, “three days and three nights”.

    "These three different statements must mesh, otherwise the Scriptures contradict themselves.

    "Let’s look at them one by one.

    “the third day”: when considering the meaning of this statement, we can look at what it would mean if it said “the first day” after the burial of Jesus.

    "In practical terms, if the burial day was “day zero”, then the first day after would be “day one”.

    "If we considered “the second day” after the burial of Jesus, it would be considered “day two”.

    "Following along, “the third day” after the burial of Jesus we would be “day 3”.

    “after three days”: when considering the meaning of this statement, we can look at what it would mean if it said “after one day” from the burial of Jesus.

    "Remember that Jesus was buried literally at the change of the day, as one day went into the other.

    "Therefore, if we consider the day that Jesus was buried as “day zero”, “after one day” would not mean “day one”, but “day two”, after one day had passed from His burial.

    "Likewise, “after two days” would not mean “day two”, but “day three”, after two days had passed from His burial.

    "So when we look at “after three days”, it does not mean “day three”, but “day four”, after three days had passed from His burial.

    "The Day of Jesus Death"

    "After determining the details as to the day and time of the resurrection of Jesus, it is only a matter of going backwards to find out on which day Jesus actually died.

    "If we count back from 6pm Saturday (the Sabbath) to Friday 6pm, we have one day.

    "If we continue to Thursday 6pm, we have two days. If we continue back to Wednesday 6pm, we have three days.


    "As you try to assimilate all this information, take a deep breath.

    "The Scriptures are loaded with information, but by searching them, we find out that God has given us more than enough to find out these precious realities.

    "Simply stated: Jesus died at 3pm on Wednesday, was buried at 6pm on Wednesday and rose again at 6pm on Saturday fulfilling EXACTLY 3 days and 3 nights in the tomb.

    "The resurrection of Jesus Christ is spoken of as God’s seal of approval for the work Christ did on the cross to save sinners.

    "I would suggest that the exact fulfillment of the sign of the prophet Jonah serves as a great big exclamation mark.

    "Why does any of it matter?"

    "Redeemed “with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

    "Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

    "Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.”

    1 Peter 3:19 – 21.
     
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    One interpretation, I believe is correct, John was by the Holy Spirit calling the weekend Sabbath a high day because it occurred during the feast of the Passover where Passover lambs had to be offered [Numbers 28:24].
     
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    Every weekly Sabbath had a day of preparation on the preceding day.

    It was a day to prepare for the coming Sabbath so no work would be done on that day.

    Mark 15:42 tells us that Jesus was crucified on the day of preparation, the day before the Sabbath.

    Many have assumed that to be Friday afternoon, which would have proceeded the weekly Saturday Sabbath. But is that correct?

    Additional Sabbath Days

    There are a number of other Sabbaths in addition to the weekly Sabbath.

    The word “sabbath” means rest and God declared rest for His people with weekly Sabbaths and additional Holy Days of Convocation.

    Collectively, these Sabbaths are called “seasons” (Gen 1:14) or God’s appointed times (Leviticus 23:2).

    In addition to the 52 weekly Sabbath days, there are 7 High Holy days for a total of 59 Sabbath.

    52 Weekly Sabbaths:

    1. 1st month Nisan, 15th day: Passover 1, first day of unleavened bread (Pesach 1)
    2. 1st month Nisan, 21st day: Passover 7, last day of unleavened bread (Pesach 7)
    3. 50 days after the first festive Sabbath: Feast of Weeks (Hebrew Shavuot, in Greek: Pentecost)
    4. 7th month Tishrei, 01: Day of Trumpets (Yom Teruach)
    5. 7th month Tishrei, 10: Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur)
    6. 7th month Tishrei, 15: Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot)
    7. 7th month Tishrei, 22: Last Great Day (Shemini Atzeret)

    = 59 Sabbaths/Holy Days.

    Some have considered the reference to the Sabbath in Mark 15:42 to mean the weekly Sabbath.

    Since Jesus was crucified on the day of preparation, they assumed it to have taken place on Friday afternoon.

    The error in this logic is that the Sabbath referred to in Mark 15 is the Feast of Unleavened Bread, one the seven Holy Days of Passover.

    The Passover Sabbath.

    The Feast of Unleavened Bread is also known as the Feast of the Passover, which was celebrated in remembrance of the Israelites being delivered from Egyptian bondage.

    This feast is set on Nisan 15* (Leviticus 23:6), which could fall on any day of the week.

    This feast day is a High Sabbath (a day of rest), also called a High Day and it was preceded by a day of preparation.


    John 19:31 Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

    John 19:31 tells that Jesus was crucified on the Preparation Day before the High Day Sabbath of the Feast of Unleavened Bread.


    This places the date of Jesus’ crucifixion on Nisan 14.


    Since the Passover feast is set according to the calendar (unlike the weekly Sabbath that is set according to the day) the question becomes, on what day of the week was the feast day that year?

    *This feast is set on Nisan 15 (Leviticus 23:6), which could fall on any day of the week.

    Now, go back and cipher it all back out.
     
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    This is an important fact. And why the first day of some months were not allowed to fall on certain days of the week. In the month of Nisan the 15th a type of sabbath was not to fall on Day of Preparation. That is why Mark 14:17 15th was not a Thursday evening.

    FYI, The Feast of Unleavened Bread, Deuteronomy 16:8 and unleavened bread, Exodus 12:18, are not the same seven days.
     
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    If this reckoning is correct, on the days of the week, I believe the internal Bible evidence is that Jesus died and was buried on Nison 14.

    From post above: and going in reverse from

    "The Moment of Jesus’ Resurrection"
    to "The Time of Jesus’ Burial"
    to "The Day of Jesus Death",

    we get Jesus' death and burial on Nisan 14, on a Wednesday.

    If we take it as a Wednesday, my question is in what year?

    I am far more inclined to adjust the year rather than the day of the week.

    In the instance of this calendar, IF THIS IS CORRECT, Nisan 14 was on a Wednesday, in A.D. 25, A.D. 31, or A.D. 36.

    Then, which is it? What year did Christ die?

    Do we even know what year Christ was born, or died, etc.?

    I stick with Wednesday, as the day of Jesus' death and burial, regardless of the year, based on internal Bible evidence.

    20 C.E. – Thursday
    21 C.E. – Friday
    22 C.E. – Saturday
    23 C.E. – Sunday
    24 C.E. – Tuesday
    25 C.E. – Wednesday


    26 C.E. – Thursday
    27 C.E. – Friday
    28 C.E. – Sunday
    29 C.E. – Monday
    30 C.E. – Tuesday


    31 C.E. – Wednesday
    32 C.E. – Friday
    33 C.E. – Saturday
    34 C.E. – Sunday
    35 C.E. – Monday


    36 C.E. – Wednesday
    37 C.E. – Thursday
    38 C.E. – Friday
    39 C.E. – Saturday
    40 C.E. – Monday
    41 C.E. – Tuesday


    "The Moment of Jesus’ Resurrection"


    "When the women went to the tomb around the break of dawn, it was likely somewhere around 6 am.

    "Many often confuse the time of the women going to the tomb as the time when Jesus rose from the dead.

    "As a side note, many also confuse the time of the earthquake with the time when Jesus rose from the dead.

    "As the Scriptures teach us, Jesus had already risen prior to the women going to the tomb in the early morning.

    "The Time of Jesus’ Burial"

    "The Gospel accounts are clear that Jesus was buried in the evening at the time of the setting sun.

    "This corresponds to the moment when the Jewish calendar went from the 14th to the 15th.

    "View the study on the Day According to Genesis 1:5 for more details on this concept (link pending).

    "In a literal sense, after Jesus expired (died) at 3pm on the 14th, he was buried at 6pm on the 14th literally at the start of the 15th (which was a Sabbath high day).

    "Remember that the sign that Jesus gave was, that the Son of Man would be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

    "This sign did not start at the moment of His death, but at the moment of His burial.

    "The Day of Jesus Death"

    "After determining the details as to the day and time of the resurrection of Jesus, it is only a matter of going backward to find out on which day Jesus actually died.

    "If we count back from 6pm Saturday (the Sabbath) to Friday 6pm, we have one day.

    "If we continue to Thursday 6pm, we have two days.

    "If we continue back to Wednesday 6pm, we have three days.


    "As you try to assimilate all this information, take a deep breath.

    "The Scriptures are loaded with information, but by searching them, we find out that God has given us more than enough to find out these precious realities.

    "Simply stated: Jesus died at 3pm on Wednesday,
    was buried at 6pm on Wednesday
    and rose again at 6pm on Saturday

    fulfilling EXACTLY 3 days and 3 nights in the tomb.



     
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    According to:
    Calendar Converter
    25 A.D. 14th of Nisan is a Monday.
    31 A.D. 14th of Nisan is a Monday.
    36 A.D. 14th of Nisan is a Friday.
     
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    Yep, I meant to say those years, "or other".

    Meaning, we really aren't sure what year we're talking about.

    The way that Calendar Convertor "massages the numbers", they would definitely have some other year for Christ's death and burial to be on a Wednesday.

    I can only vouch for Wednesday, based purely on the authenticity of our Bible document and how I interprete it's internal information.
    ...

    On a side note, if you ever want to witness the marvel of what I call the Inspiration of the (sufficient KJV) Scriptures, you will see how accurate and extremely detailed the accounts are in the Timeline, from Creation to the Resurrection of Jesus, in

    "Wonders of Bible Chronology - from the Creation of Adam to the Resurrection of Jesus Christ by Philip Mauro".

    It's not that long and Packed with God-Honoring blessings, showing the recorded lineage of Jesus Christ!

    About $10. The online .pdfs keep getting kicked off/ can't find one.

    The Bible Chronology stops at Jesus' Resurrection because That's It!

    He's coming back shortly after that!


    Wonders of Bible Chronology - from the Creation of Adam to the Resurrection of Jesus Christ - Google Search
     
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    From the crucifixion in Mark 15

    Mark 15 KJV

    Mark 15:42 tells us that Jesus was crucified on the day of preparation, the day before the Sabbath.

    "And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath," Mark 15:42.

    Again, I think it's possible that some have taken a wrong turn at the 'Sabbath'.

    You can do with all this what you want, I have more of my research materials at church.

    That'll give you something to look forward to....

    I believe you and many, many others consider the reference to the Sabbath in Mark 15:42 to mean the weekly Sabbath.

    Since Jesus was crucified on the day of preparation, they assumed it to have taken place on Friday afternoon.

    The error in this logic is that the Sabbath referred to in Mark 15 is the Feast of Unleavened Bread, one the seven Holy Days of Passover.

    In addition to the 52 weekly Sabbath days, there are 7 High Holy days for a total of 59 Sabbath.

    1. 1st month Nisan, 15th day: Passover 1, first day of unleavened bread (Pesach 1)

    The Passover Sabbath.

    The Feast of Unleavened Bread is also known as the Feast of the Passover, which was celebrated in remembrance of the Israelites being delivered from Egyptian bondage.

    This feast is set on Nisan 15 (Leviticus 23:6), which could fall on any day of the week.

    This feast day is a High Sabbath (a day of rest), also called a High Day and it was preceded by a day of preparation.

    John 19:31 Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

    John 19:31 tells that Jesus was crucified on the Preparation Day before the High Day Sabbath of the Feast of Unleavened Bread.

    This places the date of Jesus’ crucifixion on Nisan 14.

    Since the Passover feast is set according to the calendar (unlike the weekly Sabbath that is set according to the day) the question becomes, on what day of the week was the feast day that year?
    ...

    These folks grab at straws based on information needed from outside the Bible, which I avoid like the plague.

    I'm almost not sure of their conclusion.

    I think they are afraid to say.

    It may help my position, for all I know.

    From: (Jn. 13:1) Does John contradict the Synoptics regarding the Passover meal? | Evidence Unseen

    There is tension between the Synoptics and John on whether or not the Last Supper was the same as the Passover meal.

    The Synoptics tell us that the disciples prepared the Passover meal “on the first day of Unleavened Bread” (Mk. 14:12; c.f. Mt. 26:17; Lk. 22:7-8).

    But John states that Jesus was crucified before the Passover meal.

    John tells us that the Jews didn’t enter the Praetorium “so that they would not be defiled, but might eat the Passover” (Jn. 18:28).

    He also tells us that Jesus was tried in front of the people on “the day of preparation for the Passover” (Jn. 19:14).

    This puts his trial a day before Passover—not after it.

    Thus according to John, Jesus didn’t eat the Passover supper on Thursday night, because Passover hadn’t happened yet.

    The Last Supper was not the Passover meal. It was a different meal(?)

    The disciples asked Jesus, “Where do You want us to prepare for You to eat the Passover?” (Mt. 26:17).

    In fact, the Synoptics make this claim this repeatedly (Mt. 26:17, 18, 19; Mk. 14:1, 12, 14, 16; Lk. 22:1, 7, 8, 13, 15).

    However, advocates of this view argue that none of the gospels explicitly state that the disciples ate the Passover lamb, which was central to the Passover feast.

    Instead, “the Passover” could refer to the general meal.

    What was “the first day of Unleavened Bread”? was normally designated as the 15th of Nisan.

    However, the Passover lambs were sacrificed before this time, and “there is some evidence in the rabbinical literature, however, that the day on which the paschal lambs were sacrificed (the 14th of Nisan) was sometimes loosely designated ‘the first day of Unleavened Bread.’”[2]

    Did Jesus eat the Passover meal with his disciples for the Last Supper?

    This seems likely.

    First, the meal needed to be eaten at night (Mk. 14:17; Ex. 12:8) and inside the city of Jerusalem (M. Pesachim VII. 9).

    Second, the Passover “was the one occasion when the serving of a dish preceded the breaking of bread.”[3]

    This is exactly what Jesus does (Mk. 14:18-20, 22).

    Third, wine was very common at the Passover (M. Pesachim X. 1).

    Thus, Lane concludes, “The cumulative evidence supports the claim made in verses 12, 14 and 16 that the disciples prepared a Passover meal and that the external forms of the Passover were observed at the meal itself.”[4]

    The “Passover” (the pesach) doesn’t necessarily refer to the paschal lamb, but to “the chagigah, the paschal sacrifices (lambs, kids, bulls) which were offered throughout the festival week.”[5]

    The “Passover” refers to the chagigah in the OT as well (Deut. 16:2; 2 Chron. 35:7).

    If Passover has this range of meaning, then this would resolve the difficulty.

    Carson notes that Josephus uses pascha to refer to the entire feast of unleavened bread (Antiquities of the Jews, XIV, 21 [ii.1]; cf. XVII, 213 [ix.3], Jewish War II, 10 [i.3]).

    Moreover, Luke 22:1 uses it to refer to the entire feast—not just the meal (“the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which is called the Passover, was approaching”).

    We find this view very plausible.

    ...

    Dunno about that, for sure.

    Dunno about that, for sure.
     
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    Only if you use the JW Bible.

    Mark 14:12, ". . . And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover? . . " This day is the 14th of Nisan. Exodus 12:18.

    Christ was crucified the following day, Mark 14:17 - Mark 15:41.
     
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    Must have been a Wednesday as that is the day most churches have a prayer meeting
     
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    R. A. Torrey, John R. Rice and also other Baptist hold to a Wednesday crucifixion.
    But the Biblical truth is Christ was crucified the day following Mark,14:12.
     
  18. Alan Gross

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    Mark 15:42, after reading the previous portion of Mark 15.



    Come on 37818.

    You have to get the qualification for what exactly this is saying and means, "And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover".

    The guy below says, "The day after the Passover (the 15th) is actually the first High Sabbath of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, but often the whole week beginning with the Day before the Passover (when the Passover Lamb is killed) and ending with the second High Sabbath is called "The Passover Feast" or "The Feast of Unleavened Bread".
    ...

    So, this fellow, Daniel Giron, handled himself pretty well, I believe, at this site:

    According to the Gospel of John, on which day of the week was Jesus crucified?


    "To find the day of Christ’s crucifixion, you have to start with the resurrection and work your way backward.

    "On Easter Sunday morning most Christian denominations have actually been celebrating the discovery of the empty tomb; not the resurrection itself!

    "I am absolutely certain, and the Bible makes it clear, that Jesus' resurrection was not at sunrise; Mary Magdalene came to the tomb, the first time, when it was still dark, and the tomb was already empty.

    "The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre. Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him. [John 20:1-2 KJV]

    "If you read the writings of the early church fathers, you will notice that many of them were very anti-Jewish.

    "Because of this prejudice, they did not study the customs and practices that were an everyday part of our Lord Jesus Christ's life.

    "They, therefore, misunderstood some of the simple phrases and actions that a Jewish reader would take for granted.

    "One point of confusion, for many people, is that Friday is not called "The Preparation Day," but the day before a High Day celebration was:

    Now it was the Preparation Day of the Passover [John 19:14]

    Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day)... [John 19:31]

    "The last verse above is referring to a passage in the Old Testament the says nothing about Sabbaths.

    "A body that was hanged on a tree was not to remain there overnight (any night) so that the land would not be defiled. [Deuteronomy 21:22,23 ]

    "The religious leaders did not want to miss out on the upcoming Unleavened Bread feast (also, collectively, called Passover) [compare John 18:28]

    "Some of the modern paraphrase Bibles actually call "the Preparation Day," Friday, which is not used in the originals.

    "Since the Passover falls on the 14th day of the month on the Biblical, Hebrew calendar, it occurs on a different day of the week each year.

    "The day after the Passover (the 15th) is actually the first High Sabbath of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, but often the whole week beginning with the Day before the Passover (when the Passover Lamb is killed) and ending with the second High Sabbath is called "The Passover Feast" or "The Feast of Unleavened Bread".

    "One of the problems you come up with when you don't realize that there was a special Sabbath (Thursday), is that Mark says,

    Now when the Sabbath was past, [the women] bought spices, that they might come and anoint Him. [Mark 16:1]

    While Luke says:

    That day was the preparation, and the Sabbath drew near… They observed the tomb... Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath... [Luke 23:54-56]

    "There are plenty of Bible critics who point this out as a contradiction that disproves the accuracy of the Bible.

    "Obviously, you can't prepare the spices until after you buy them; so, if they bought the spices after the regular Saturday Sabbath, they would be buying them on Sunday, which would be too late to prepare them and then rest on the Sabbath.

    "If you didn't know that there were two Sabbaths, with one day in between, then there would be a contradiction between the two gospels.

    "But every word of the Bible is true and accurate.

    "But don't forget that Jesus specifically said that He will be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights.

    For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. [Matthew 12:40]

    "I believe that the plain teaching of the Bible is that Jesus celebrated, and fulfilled, the Passover with His disciples on Tuesday evening,

    was arrested Tuesday night,

    was crucified on Wednesday morning,

    buried on Wednesday evening (the start of Thursday for the Jews)

    and rose on Saturday evening (the start of Sunday for the Jews)

    during the offering and feast of the "Firstfruits of Harvest," as its fulfillment.

    But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the first fruits of them that slept. [1 Corinthians 15:20 KJV]

    "Jesus was in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights; that doesn't mean a few hours Friday night, one whole day Saturday, and a few hours Sunday morning.

    "And that doesn't take into account that in the Jewish reckoning of time, Saturday starts at about 6:00 on Friday evening (about the hour that He was buried [Matthew 27:57 & Mark 15:42]).

    "The answer to your specific question: Jesus was crucified, about the 9th hour, on Wednesday morning, the 14th day of the first month (Nisan) of the Biblical, Hebrew calendar.

    "(Calculated using internal, Biblical, chronological references such as John 12:1, and the Levitical Feast dates. Corroborated by the astronomically and agriculturally synchronized, Biblical Hebrew calendar used by strict Messianic Jewish rabbis, theologians, and their websites.)"
     
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    Mark 15:42 is our Thursday. evening.
     
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    The Feast of Unleavened Bread, 15th-21st, ref Deuteronomy 16:8 are not the same seven days as the seven days of unleavened bread, 14th-20th, per Exodus 12:18.
    Mark 14:12 is explicit, " . . . the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, . . ." Fact, Christ was crucified that next day.
     
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