Featured "Election of God"

Election is preceded by its call.
Unconditional election is an unBiblical Calvinist invention.

 

Election is a Bible doctrine. God chose Jesus Christ "before" the foundation of the world and he chose all those the Spirit immerses (baptizes) into his body. Election is a trinitarian idea of the trinitarian God. Therefore he elected all others "from" the foundation of the world, when the Spirit put them into Christ.

Here are the functions of the Godhead in the salvation of an individual soul.

God the Father = Justification, taking away the condemnation.
God the Son - He died for us, paying our penalty, without which there could be no justification.
God the Spirit, indwelling the believer's body, giving him the life of God by his presence and placing him in Christ;s body.

This answers the prayer of Jesus in John 17.

Rom 8:32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Do not allow the Reformed to teach you an anti gospel.


Jn 17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me (Jesus Christ) before the foundation of the world.

He did not say in this context that he loved us before the foundation of the world. This is significant.

 

Ever wonder what Calvinists are saying with "made in Christ before the world began?"

Are they claiming individuals were chosen for salvation not through faith in the truth as taught in 2 Thessalonians 2:13? Yes
Are they claiming all the people chosen by God always existed as a chosen people, rather than having existed as not a people per 1 Peter 2:9-10. Yes.
So how were people chosen before creation? Corporately, because when God chose His Redeemer, the Lamb of God before creation, He also chose corporate whoever His Redeemer would redeem.
Who are those chosen? Those God credits with righteous faith, Romans 4:23-25.

 

Did I use that word? Nope. Truth matters...

Ever wonder what Calvinists are saying with "made in Christ before the world began?"

Are they claiming individuals were chosen for salvation not through faith in the truth as taught in 2 Thessalonians 2:13? Yes
Are they claiming all the people chosen by God always existed as a chosen people, rather than having existed as not a people per 1 Peter 2:9-10. Yes.
So how were people chosen before creation? Corporately, because when God chose His Redeemer, the Lamb of God before creation, He also chose corporately whoever His Redeemer would redeem.
Who are those chosen? Those God credits with righteous faith, Romans 4:23-25.
Unconditional Election is a complete fiction, denying 2 Thessalonians 2:13 and James 2:5

 

Ephesians 1:3-4, ". . . hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should . . ." The common Calvinist presupposition is the "chosen" meaning the election. Of course is the misinterpretation.

 

When did God give YOU faith, Van. It's a very simple question. On the timeline of your life, when did God give you faith, Van?

 

The chosen existed as not a people chosen for God's possession according to scripture. Your claim is simply unbiblical.

 

And yet, that's what the Bible tells us. Go figure...

 

If, as your man-made doctrine claims, we had been chosen individually before creation, then we would have always been a people chosen for God" possession, thus nullifying 1 Peter 2:9-10.

Next you claim I support the idea that some days God loves me and some days He does not. But no quote, because the false claim is straight up slander.

 

Good Grief, now we get a copy and past bogus commentary!

1 Peter 2:10 (Interpretive translation)

Once not the People, yet now the People of God; not having been shown mercy, yet now shown mercy.

First who are the people being addressed, as another ploy used to nullify scripture is to claim the verse does not apply to whom it applies. Is this verse referring to the nation of Israel, comprised of people chosen to be His people. Nope as they were called out of darkness into His marvelous light. Born anew believers are being addressed.

The commentary ignores that if chosen individually before creation, then those individuals would have always been a chosen people of God and thus always shown mercy.

Once again we see the slide of hand where election is changed to salvation. Not how the passage reads.

Instead of the people being chosen by God, they are those saved or regenerated or formed or anything but chosen people of God.​

 

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