Reformed Baptists, Are they Baptist?

I'm not sure that this is correct.

Most Baptists disagree with Reformed Baptists insofar as doctrine goes (at least the Reformed part), but they are considered Baptists, perhaps with extreme or outlying beliefs depending on who you ask.

Earlier Baptists probably would have disagreed as there is more (depending on who's counting) to Baptist than observing believers baptism. But many current non-Reformed Baptists would find it difficult to fit in early Baptist standards.

Likewise early Reformed churches would have rejected the idea that one could be a Reformed and Baptist because one negates the other.

Reformed Baptist doctrine is an amalgamation of Presbyterian doctrine and Baptist doctrine (but most Baptist doctrine is a mixture of some type of Reformation doctrine and earlier Baptist Doctrine...so I wouldn't let that bother you).

For me, Id say Reformed Baptists are baptists. Perhaps they lean more on Presbyterian doctrine, but they are still my Baptist brethren.

I never considered myself a Reformed Baptist - not because of doctrine but because of the church I attended (I chose a church united in Christ but without an official position on Calvinism). It was this board, in fact, that made me decide never to attend a Reformed Baptist church even though I agreed with their doctrine.

But as a Calvinist I would have been a Reformed Baptist. And I was no less a Baptist then as now.

 

I was wondering the same. Baptists are a diverse group. As a whole, we disagree about a lot. But we are still Baptists. I was a Baptist when I was a Calvinist and I am still a Baptist now that I am not.

 

I think everybody on this forum - even non-Calvinists - believe that Reformed Baptist are baptists (it's in the name, after all ).

 

Good point. Reformed Baptist, Particular Baptist, and Calvinist within Baptist circles all mean the same thing but at the same time each can be perceived differently.

When we hear Reformed Baptist we often think Covenant Theology, elder leadership and such.

When we hear Particular Baptist we think 5 point Baptist (I think Spurgeon).

When we hear Calvinist in Baptist circles we often think of moderate Calvinist (or inconsistent Calvinist ).

 

Yea....many on the Puritan board are traditionally Reformed and do not like to see "Reformed" and "Baptist" together as they see one theology as negating the other.

I guess it would be like us seeing "Catholic Baptist"

 

It was misplaced. There was another in the Baptist Theology section. Since there was t enough to merge into that one I just closed it.

I almost left it open, but since we don't have any Presbyterians here I didn't see a reason.

You want it here too ? (I don't mind, if there's a need I'll open it).

 

Done.

When I get a chance I'll outline what Covenant Theology is - not going down passages, we all agree on the passages, but the actual framework. The other thread was getting to cloudy.

Covenant Theology itself is simple. But there are differing views on exactly how many covenants.

 

Thread closed. OP banned.