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How many unsaved people die per day?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Van, Jun 13, 2023.

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  1. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
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    In a recently closed thread, the title question was answered with as many as God predestined.
    Of course on the other side of the aisle, we think some of those missing the opportunity for salvation could have been saved if we had more laborers hastening the day.

    According to the World Population Review about 332,000 people die every day. If "few" indicates less than one third, than more than 200,000 people probably are consigned to Hades every day.

    Many people have dedicated their whole lives, including missionary martyrs, to reach lost people with the good news.

    The purpose of the closed thread was to encourage a discussion of what we could do to reach more of them on the opportunity side of the aisle, rather than engage in just another turf war.
     
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    So, Van, what are you doing about that? I see you spending a lot of time here on the BB amongst all these 'saved' people relentlessly harping against Sovereign Grace. Don't you think your time could be more wisely spent trying to get more people into heaven?
     
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    I trust God to save every single person He desires to be saved. Jesus said He would not lose even one.

    Evangelize, proclaim the gospel, go as you are led by God.

    But never, ever think someone’s salvation hangs in the balance based on what you do. Salvation is work of God from start to finish. He causes it. He finishes it. He gets ALL the glory.

    peace to you
     
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    Yes, we are to compare our behavior to the commands of Christ, one of which is to evaluate ourselves.
     
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    Yes, before you can remove the speck from others' eyes you must first get the log out of your own eye...
     
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    Have at it.. :)
     
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    More false doctrine, more myth, more delusion.
    Everyone God desires to save refers to all humanity, 1 Timothy 2:4.
    However, God desires to individuals according to His redemption plan, not the plan of Calvinism.
    Everyone God transfers into Christ, gives to Christ, calls out of darkness into His light, spiritually baptizes into Christ is saved forever, as Christ has promised not to cast them out, John 6:37.

    Jesus said to pray for move laborers, so to claim they are of no value is to nullify Christ's very words, making them of no effect.
    We till the ground, plant and water, but God causes the increase. To say our preparing the ground, our planting, our watering has no effect in the harvesting of the fields white for harvest, again makes God's word to no effect.
     
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    God desires to save all humanity, 1 Timothy 2:4.
    However, God desires to save individuals according to His redemption plan, not the plan of Calvinism.
    Everyone God transfers into Christ, also referred to as gives to Christ,or calls out of darkness into His light, or spiritually baptizes into Christ is saved forever, as Christ has promised not to cast them out, John 6:37.

    Jesus said to pray for more laborers, so to claim they are of no value is to nullify Christ's very words, making them of no effect.
    We till the ground, plant and water, but God causes the increase. To say our preparing the ground, our planting, our watering has no effect in the harvesting of the fields white for harvest, again makes God's word to no effect.

    Evangelism is not just persuading people to fully commit to Christ as their Savior and Lord, but also teaching them all that Christ commanded, and training them to become effective servants in Christ's ministry.
     
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    Calvinists have been at the forefront of missionary service. They do so out of love for God and for people and obedience to Christ’s commands. Everyone chosen for a right relationship with God will be saved. God will not lose any.

    They do not believe someone will not be saved if they fail. It does not depend on our efforts but on the work of God. It is a great privilege that God included us in His plan of redemption, for preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

    It is a falsehood to claim Calvinists see no value in proclaiming the gospel or in missionary efforts.

    Our faith in God, as revealed by scripture, gives us confidence that God is able to accomplish all He has planned.

    peace to you
     
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    Why did we need to pray for more laborers if more laborers would have no effect?

    We till the ground, plant and water, but God causes the increase. To say our preparing the ground, our planting, our watering has no effect in the harvesting of the fields white for harvest, again makes God's word to no effect.

    Did I say Calvinists see no value in proclaiming the gospel? Nope so more nonsense, more running from truth.
     
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    God has given us a great privilege by being involved in His plan of redemption. But God could cause the stones to proclaim the gospel if He so desired. The birds could proclaim the gospel.

    The wind could proclaim the gospel in every language to every person on the planet, if God chose it. To deny that truth is to deny scripture. God doesn’t need any of us to bring His chosen to salvation.

    Ultimately, salvation does not depend on our efforts, but on the work of God If anyone believes folks will miss salvation because of a lack of laborers, they are denying the Word of God and the power of God to accomplish His will.

    Have faith in God to accomplish His will.

    peace to you
     
    #11 canadyjd, Jun 19, 2023
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