Featured Isaiah 53...

False. Not according to Romans 3:21-26 or Isaiah 53:1-12.

 

Matthew 10:28, ". . . And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. . . ."
Matthew 25:41, ". . . Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: . . ."

 

Do you deny Genesis to be the first book of the Law? Exodus 20:11, ". . . For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. . . ."

 

If your getting a insect T-Shirt printed right now... Is it a worm?... Brother Glen

Isaiah 41: 14 Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.

 

See my other thread on Romans 3, and my previous post in this thread on Isaiah 53. All your questions are answered.

 

But "stricken of God" doesn't provide sufficient evidence that Jesus is suffering justly as a guilty party. That language is also used of people who are innocent and suffering unjustly. See Psalm 44. We could say Abel was "stricken of God." But we all know that Abel was unjustly murdered. Abel and Jesus are directly correlated in the New Testament.

 

True regarding Isaiah 53:

Surely our griefs He Himself bore,
And our sorrows He carried;
Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten of God, and afflicted.
BUT He was pierced through for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.

But Zechariah 13:7 says:

“Awake, O sword, against My Shepherd,
And against the man, My Associate,”
Declares the Lord of hosts.
“Strike the Shepherd that the sheep may be scattered;
And I will turn My hand against the little ones.

And Jesus applies this to himself in Matthew 26:31 -

“You will all fall away because of Me this night, for it is written, ‘I will strike down the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered.’

The key is to read the whole passage in Zechariah 13, which describes everyone either perishing or being brought through fire. The suffering of the Shepherd is not substitutionary. Everyone goes through suffering at the hand of God.

Additionally, as I have said before, language concerning God's "striking" and "crushing" is used of innocent people suffering unjustly, so it doesn't lend any support to the penal substitution position anyway.

 

Isaiah 53:10. ''Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief.' Are you suggesting that God acted unjustly?

Isaiah 53:5, ESV: 'Upon Him was the chastisement that brought us peace.' His was the chastisement (NIV, 'punishment'); ours was the peace.

 

Does the text say "by his wounds we are healed" or does it say "by his wounds we avoid being wounded"? Which does it say?

Does the Bible say "by Jesus' death we avoid dying" or does it say "By Jesus' death and resurrection, the dead will rise from death?" See Ephesians 2:1-10.

 

Yeah this worm puts on the Whole Armor Of God!... Everyday... Brother Glen

 

It has been pointed out to you (many times) that you are ignoring what the Scripture says: 'He has put Him to grief.' Now since @Arthur King seems unwilling to answer my question, perhaps you will. Are you suggesting that God acted unjustly?

 

I didn't ask you about that. What I asked was:

When you answer my question, I will be happy to answer yours.