The New Testament teaches The Doctrines of Grace.

[Alan Gross]

from: TOM ROSS- HISTORICAL SURVEY OF SOVEREIGN GRACE

"James refers to Election in his epistle;

"Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him" (James 2:5).

"Peter opens his first epistle by addressing the;

"Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father...",

"and later refers to believers in the following way;

"But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light" (2:9).

"John's first epistle is very practical in nature as he writes about the characteristics that should be evident in the life of one who has been born of God. Yet, in the midst of the most practical epistle of the New Testament, John declares;

"We love him, because he first loved us" (4:19).

"John believed that the New Birth was a work of God alone, and that God was the first cause in our salvation.

"From a brief sampling of the New Testament, it is quite evident that Jesus Christ and the Apostles believed in what we refer to today as The Doctrines of Grace."

 

[JD731]

from: TOM ROSS- HISTORICAL SURVEY OF SOVEREIGN GRACE

"James refers to Election in his epistle;

"Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him" (James 2:5).

"Peter opens his first epistle by addressing the;

"Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father...",

"and later refers to believers in the following way;

"But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light" (2:9).

"John's first epistle is very practical in nature as he writes about the characteristics that should be evident in the life of one who has been born of God. Yet, in the midst of the most practical epistle of the New Testament, John declares;

"We love him, because he first loved us" (4:19).

"John believed that the New Birth was a work of God alone, and that God was the first cause in our salvation.

"From a brief sampling of the New Testament, it is quite evident that Jesus Christ and the Apostles believed in what we refer to today as The Doctrines of Grace."

The scriptures knows nothing about a system called "the doctrines of grace." They do know something about the "dispensation of the grace of God," but you guys of the Reformation deny plain teaching and make up stuff to put in it's place. Anyone who thinks Roman Catholicism was ever Christian and could be reformed somehow was already in way over his head.

 

[JD731]

The Doctrines of Grace. No doctrine in scripture called the doctrines of grace. It is made up.
"Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father...", - God foreknew the 12 tribes of Israel. Meaning he knew them before the new testament days. He did not foreknow anyone else or he would have said so.

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light" (2:9). - Spoken by Peter to the believers of the strangers of Israel in Asia minor who had a promise from God that he would save them and make them his sons. The generation is the generation in which Jesus lived, which ended in 70 AD. They are the generation of Israelites whom God chose to reveal the Christian gospel to. See Matt 1:1

"We love him, because he first loved us" (4:19).- John addressed his letter to the "little children." The little children are the same subjects to whom Peter and James addressed their letters. This was a fulfillment of the prophesy of God to them in Hosea 1. God was making sure they knew that by calling them little children.

1Pe 2:1 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,
2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

Jas 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

 

[Alan Gross]

I like the last part you said in your last quote, below, to go along with the rest of your quotes.

The scriptures knows nothing about a system called "the doctrines of grace."

deny plain teaching and make up stuff to put in it's place.

was already in way over his head.

No doctrine in scripture called the doctrines of grace. It is made up.

God foreknew the 12 tribes of Israel. Meaning he knew them before the new testament days.

He did not foreknow anyone else or he would have said so.

Spoken by Peter to the believers of the strangers of Israel in Asia minor who had a promise from God that he would save them and make them his sons.

The generation is the generation in which Jesus lived, which ended in 70 AD.

This was a fulfillment of the prophesy of God to them in Hosea 1. God was making sure they knew that by calling them little children.

1Pe 2:1 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,

 

[Marooncat79]

I like the last part you said in your last quote, below, to go along with the rest of your quotes.

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[Brightfame52]

The Doctrines of Grace. No doctrine in scripture called the doctrines of grace. It is made up.
"Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father...", - God foreknew the 12 tribes of Israel. Meaning he knew them before the new testament days. He did not foreknow anyone else or he would have said so.

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light" (2:9). - Spoken by Peter to the believers of the strangers of Israel in Asia minor who had a promise from God that he would save them and make them his sons. The generation is the generation in which Jesus lived, which ended in 70 AD. They are the generation of Israelites whom God chose to reveal the Christian gospel to. See Matt 1:1

"We love him, because he first loved us" (4:19).- John addressed his letter to the "little children." The little children are the same subjects to whom Peter and James addressed their letters. This was a fulfillment of the prophesy of God to them in Hosea 1. God was making sure they knew that by calling them little children.

1Pe 2:1 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,
2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

Jas 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

The Doctrines of Grace is but another way of saying the Gospel of the Grace of God Acts 20:24

But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

Now one of the Doctrines of the Gospel of Grace is Election, or Election of Grace Rom 11:5-6

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

 

[Brightfame52]

Did Jesus Die for Everybody?

No since everyone isnt His Sheep for whom He specifically stated He died for Jn 10:11,15

11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

And He indicated everyone isnt of His Sheep Jn 10:26

26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

This indicates that all the Sheep He died for shall eventually believe in Him

 

[JD731]

The Doctrines of Grace is but another way of saying the Gospel of the Grace of God Acts 20:24

But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

Now one of the Doctrines of the Gospel of Grace is Election, or Election of Grace Rom 11:5-6

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

No, you made that up. You are giving evidence that you are not willing to receive information and process it within the framework of prophesy, ethnicity, time ( 5 Even so then at this present time), and context. While most of the people of Israel, through which all the promises of salvation were made, ("for salvation is of the Jews," Jesus said in Jn 4), only a small remnant believed in him and were saved. Obviously the promises he made to them were not kept to them as a people, because they rejected him as a fulfilment of their promises, but salvation had come because Jesus Christ had come and provided salvation to all them of Israel who received it. So God through grace opened the door of faith to gentiles and we can now receive salvation. Ac 14:27 And when they were come, and had gathered the church (Antioch) together, they rehearsed all that God had done with them, and how he had opened the door of faith unto the Gentiles.

Here is the "mystery" of Christ, meaning something that was not previously revealed.

Eph 3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets (all Jews) by the Spirit;
6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: (not by election)

You greatly err by teaching doctrines the scriptures do not support.

 

[taisto]

The scriptures knows nothing about a system called "the doctrines of grace." They do know something about the "dispensation of the grace of God," but you guys of the Reformation deny plain teaching and make up stuff to put in it's place. Anyone who thinks Roman Catholicism was ever Christian and could be reformed somehow was already in way over his head.

JD, do you believe in the Trinity, even though the term doesn't exist in the Bible?

Next, is it wrong to look for places in the Bible where we see God graciously acting alone on our behalf?

It seems to me that you have a contention against the labels given rather than the function of God in the labeled "5 solas." Why do you contend against God being the sole worker?

Sola Scriptura: The Bible is God's inspired Word and is the final authority for the Church.

Sola Christus: Christ alone is the basis upon which the ungodly are justified.

Sola Fide: Christ's redemption of sinners is received by faith alone.

Sola gratia: Salvation, from beginning to end, is by grace and grace alone.

Solid Deo Gloria: God alone receives glory for our salvation

Which of these is not taught in the Bible?

 

[JD731]

JD, do you believe in the Trinity, even though the term doesn't exist in the Bible?

Next, is it wrong to look for places in the Bible where we see God graciously acting alone on our behalf?

It seems to me that you have a contention against the labels given rather than the function of God in the labeled "5 solas." Why do you contend against God being the sole worker?

Sola Scriptura: The Bible is God's inspired Word and is the final authority for the Church.

Sola Christus: Christ alone is the basis upon which the ungodly are justified.

Sola Fide: Christ's redemption of sinners is received by faith alone.

Sola gratia: Salvation, from beginning to end, is by grace and grace alone.

Solid Deo Gloria: God alone receives glory for our salvation

Which of these is not taught in the Bible?

The very fact that you understand that you must redefine God's terminology and put "sola" spins on it is plenty of evidence that you think there are better terms than his terms, especially the first. Scriptura is certainly not the final authority for the word of God for the persons who came up with this grouping and those who have followed them. If God could have used words to define his words better then he would have. He did not define it as "sola scriptura. There is not one word written in the canon of scripture that was not written by a man. Not even one although we know God can write. He wrote the first copy of the Ten Commandments with his finger.

Scripture is the written word of God and what I have are the words of God but God did not put it into writing with his own hand. Chosen men wrote it. Ps 68:11 The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.

So, to prove that "sola scriptura" is a proper way to begin the systematizing of God's salvation with other solas, prove it with the scriptures. They all have a body of doctrine behind them that is not supported with a proper understanding of the scriptures and is "private interpretation."

 

[Brightfame52]

@JD731

No, you made that up.

No I didnt. Its the ancient Gospel of Gods Grace.

 

[JD731]

@JD731



No I didnt. Its the ancient Gospel of Gods Grace.

1Sa 15:2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

Joh 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.

Re 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

1 Samuel 15:2 is not an example of God's grace..
Re 22:17 is an example of God's grace'

The difference is the cross of Jesus Christ and his resurrection. He imputes no personal sins in this age of grace while the sinner lives because atonement has been made and someone else has received our punishment for sins and God is no longer exercised with wrath against us.

Heb 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

You need to revise your preaching while there is time. You are not telling the truth.

 

[Brightfame52]

1Sa 15:2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

Joh 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.

Re 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

1 Samuel 15:2 is not an example of God's grace..
Re 22:17 is an example of God's grace'

The difference is the cross of Jesus Christ and his resurrection. He imputes no personal sins in this age of grace while the sinner lives because atonement has been made and someone else has received our punishment for sins and God is no longer exercised with wrath against us.

Heb 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

You need to revise your preaching while there is time. You are not telling the truth.

The Gospel of Gods Grace sets forth the election of Grace Rom 11:5-6

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

You must no believe in Salvation by Grace friend

 

[taisto]

The very fact that you understand that you must redefine God's terminology and put "sola" spins on it is plenty of evidence that you think there are better terms than his terms, especially the first. Scriptura is certainly not the final authority for the word of God for the persons who came up with this grouping and those who have followed them. If God could have used words to define his words better then he would have. He did not define it as "sola scriptura. There is not one word written in the canon of scripture that was not written by a man. Not even one although we know God can write. He wrote the first copy of the Ten Commandments with his finger.

Scripture is the written word of God and what I have are the words of God but God did not put it into writing with his own hand. Chosen men wrote it. Ps 68:11 The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.

So, to prove that "sola scriptura" is a proper way to begin the systematizing of God's salvation with other solas, prove it with the scriptures. They all have a body of doctrine behind them that is not supported with a proper understanding of the scriptures and is "private interpretation."

Again, do you reject the Trinity? It isn't found in the Bible as a term.

Are you claiming to receive verbal words from God directly to you that make the Bible secondary?

Reading your words, you come across as very prideful in thinking your opinion is vastly superior to all Christians who have come before you. Is that how you really perceived yourself?