Mother of 9 shot and killed

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

...Sorry, I’ve become somewhat cynical of media lately.

Yeah, it should've happened decades ago.

 

[canadyjd]

Yeah, it should've happened decades ago.

It had been subtle in the past. Since DT, traditional media has gone all in, not even attempting to be unbiased.

I remember an editorial (NY Times?) that argued reporters could no longer be unbiased. They must be advocates.

peace to you

 

[Van]

It had been subtle in the past. Since DT, traditional media has gone all in, not even attempting to be unbiased.

I remember an editorial (NY Times?) that argued reporters could no longer be unbiased. They must be advocates.

peace to you

I grew up accepting the media, Walter and Chet and Reynolds, Time magazine and our LA times. But, several years ago, now, there was a debate in Congress over a ban on "Partial Birth Abortion" and I watched much of it on CSPAN. The next day, I read an account of the debate in the LA Times.

One of the most power arguments against "PBA" was a letter from the AMA saying "PBA is NEVER required to save the life of the mother!" But this argument was not to be found in the LA Times coverage. I cancelled by subscription. Sadly, within a year or two, Time magazine also went south, in my opinion, and I cancelled that subscription too.

The thing about the godless left if they believe in the "anything goes" behavior of an apex predator. When the market place of ideas is awash in falsehoods, our ability to discern truth is severely limited. And of course our internal bias, our presuppositions, trumps our rationality when it comes to our analysis of the information highway.

 

[Scarlett O.]

~sigh~ God bless these children and their father who've lost their mother and wife.

 

[OnlyaSinner]

Evil is never satisfied with “live and let live”. This whole trans ideology is about forcing compliance on all who dare to disagree.

They will attempt to force you to agree. If you don’t agree, they will attempt to shame you into silence by claiming you are causing these folks to commit suicide. If they cannot shame you into silence, If they cannot shame you into silence, they will attempt to bankrupt you by threatening your lively hood with lawsuits and false accusations… targeting your employer. Finally, they will criminalize your beliefs, calling it “hate speech” and “inciting violence” if you dare to protect your children from this purely evil, sexual grooming.

This evil cannot be placated. It must be revealed boldly in the arena of ideas and defeated.

peace to you

I've seen several iterations of the following sequence. This is the one I remember (and it's not limited to gender issues).
1. Unconscionable
2. Undesirable
3. Tolerable
4. Acceptable
5. Commendable
6. Celebrated
7. Mandated
The US seems to be around #5 and moving up. (Though the status is not the same throughout the nation.)

 

[KenH]

Evil is never satisfied with “live and let live”.

Oh, I know. 1 Peter 4:3-5 For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries: wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you: who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead. (emphasis mine)

I am blessed in that I live in a small town and am pretty much a homebody and an introvert and am not personally exposed in my daily life to what goes on in much of the United States and the rest of the world nowadays. About all I know of such is from watching TV and what is reported in the various kinds of media. I have been around, as far as I know, only a handful of people who are homosexuals, and it was other people who told me that they were such.

 

[KenH]

For example, having total strangers approach him tell his he is "disgusting."

I would never go up to someone and do such. I would try to move on and avoid them, but I am too much of an introvert to go up to someone and say such things.

If I was to approach someone to discuss their situation, it would probably be someone who was preaching a false gospel. Those preaching false gospels and false Christs are doing WAY more harm to the citizens of the United States and the rest of the world, as they are giving people a false hope, than those who are flaunting their sins(and we are all vile sinners, and what we might consider a "tiny" sin is just as damnable as what we might consider a "big" sin) in public.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Oh, I know. 1 Peter 4:3-5 For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries: wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you: who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead. (emphasis mine)

I am blessed in that I live in a small town and am pretty much a homebody and an introvert and am not personally exposed in my daily life to what goes on in much of the United States and the rest of the world nowadays. About all I know of such is from watching TV and what is reported in the various kinds of media. I have been around, as far as I know, only a handful of people who are homosexuals, and it was other people who told me that they were such.

Your an introvert?!? Well who would have guessed that.

 

[atpollard]

He's not, so he's not disgusting. He is a person created in the image of God who has been through more trauma than most.

I had an uncle, Ferdinand (Ferdina), that struggled. It ended as it too often does … suicide.

The wage of sin really is death, especially for those that cannot or will not accept the gift of God.

 

[Salty]

I had an uncle, Ferdinand (Ferdina), that struggled. It ended as it too often does … suicide.

The wage of sin really is death, especially for those that cannot or will not accept the gift of God.

Even Born again Christians have committed suicide

 

[KenH]

Your an introvert?!? Well who would have guessed that.

I was an extrovert in elementary school and didn't start becoming introverted until the seventh grade in junior high when I got interested in girls. I started being shy and I guess it sort of carried over into other things.

Now, it's not like I am a hermit. I have no problem talking with people. It's just that I like to stay out of the limelight, unless I feel strongly motivated to do something, such as when I started teaching adult Bible classes in the late 80s in the Church of Christ.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Good to hear it… sometimes people who are introverted are on the spectrum and speaking is very difficult. Glad to hear you can communicate.

Even confrontation can be helpful and can draw out differences, concerns, miscommunication etc as long as it’s kept in check

 

[Salty]

and back to the OP

California store owner shot dead over displaying Pride flag: Police

This was an unprovoked murder

The victim was not a lesdian, she only supports the hom0se/al "right" to be "immoral".

The murderer did not like her (so-called) pride flag.

We may not like so of these activities - but this the USA - where people have a right to do dumb things.
As Christians, we should NOT celebrate this death. Rather, we need to pray for the family. We need to stand up for the truth. When we talk to others about these morality issues - we need to do it in love.

Lets not turn into a "Westboro Baptist church" WWJD

 

[canadyjd]

and back to the OP

This was an unprovoked murder

The victim was not a lesdian, she only supports the hom0se/al "right" to be "immoral".

The murderer did not like her (so-called) pride flag.

We may not like so of these activities - but this the USA - where people have a right to do dumb things.
As Christians, we should NOT celebrate this death. Rather, we need to pray for the family. We need to stand up for the truth. When we talk to others about these morality issues - we need to do it in love.

Lets not turn into a "Westboro Baptist church" WWJD

Has the police released any info about the killer or the motive?

peace to you

 

[Salty]

Has the police released any info about the killer or the motive?

peace to you

Has the police released any info about the killer or the motive?

This happened a week ago - so now - its basically old news.
Since she was white- Al Sharpton is not getting involved.
The murder took place in California -in the general LA area.

She also now has her own Wiki page:

 

[atpollard]

It is tragic. It is senseless. It has no deeper meaning or point.
We live in a fallen world where bad people do evil things for misguided motives. Neither party in this tragedy is a martyr for WWJD.

They SHOULD have talked to each other. They SHOULD have disagreed. They SHOULD have both walked away.

WE should pray for her family. WE should offer our sympathy. WE should denounce all taking of human life - abortion, ideology motivated murders, euthanasia (God and ‘Caesar’ wield the sword, we do not). WE should continue to pray: “Come quickly, Lord Jesus!”

 

[Baptist Believer]

I am sure of this… exposing children to trans ideology/ drag queens is grooming them for sexual exploitation.. it is pure evil.

Again, drag shows and drag queens don't necessarily have anything to do with trans persons. A few moments of actual research would make that clear.

And we are not talking about rare genetic disorders...

Genetic disorders are not nearly are rare as most "conservatives" seem to think. We have only had routine and widespread genetic testing for about two decades, and most people don't share genetic variations because of a lot of stigma that the current spirit of the age places on such persons.

...(another deflection from the trans crowd to gain sympathy)...

Not a deflection at all. Your prejudices are showing.

...I cede to your knowledge of trans and drag. I suppose ignorance is a blessing at times.

It is now a curse to you, since even after reading what I have written, you keep pushing your prejudice. If you are a disciple of Jesus, you are now obligated (by Jesus, not me) to re-evaluate your position and do some basic research before you continue with your prejudices and uninformed positions.

 

[Salty]

Am I prjudice agains trans, ect - YEs - I am - and I am not ashamed of it.
But I can still show Christian love to these individuals.....

 

[Baptist Believer]

I grew up accepting the media, Walter and Chet and Reynolds...

You should have never done that. We have always needed critical thinking and healthy skepticism.

But unfortunately, many people discover that journalists are not always unbiased and that makes them cynical of being able to determine what is actually true -- especially concerning persons and situations they tend not to agree with.

I read information from a wide variety of sources and tend to trust those sources that I find consistently match the objective facts I can find. Within the last few years, a great way to evaluate media sources is to find reporting on documents (bill in Congress, court cases, indictments, reports of investigations, etc.) and then read the entire document and determine whether or not the document's contents are being accurately reported. That wipes out a lot of media sources on both the left and right.

It takes some time, but it is worth it.

 

[KenH]

Does anyone recall the two times that Barney Fife dressed up like a woman in "The Andy Griffith Show"? 60 years ago it was seen as funny scenes. Not sure they would be seen the same nowadays.