Featured Seeking God some of the Time

Romans 3:11 makes this statement and some read this as saying "there is none who seeks for God at any time." However the intended contextual message might be "there is none who seeks for God all the time, or when they are going against God by sinning."

Contextually, since Paul is saying "all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23), so when going against God by sinning is most likely the actual message.

Consider this verse:
2 Chronicles 15:4 (NASB)
“But in their distress they turned to the LORD God of Israel, and they sought Him, and He let them find Him.

If no one ever seeks after God, then scripture would not mean what it says!

Psalms 34:4
I sought the LORD and He answered me,
And rescued me from all my fears.

Acts of the Apostles 13:7
who was with the proconsul, Sergius Paulus, a man of intelligence. This man summoned Barnabas and Saul and sought to hear the word of God.

Read Psalms 14:1-6. Who are the ones who seek God as a refuge and make God their refuge? Who are ones in great dread, who are the righteous generation?

Who are "My people" in Psalms 14:4? Believing Jews! According to false doctrine, God knowing no one ever seeks God, looked down to see if any were seeking God. Nevermind that is an irrational absurdity. And of course in addition to seeing some that proclaim "there is no God" and therefore not seeking God He also did see those who had made God their refuge, the righteous generation, the believing Jews.

The claim no lost person ever seeks God is obviously false doctrine.

The doctrine originated by expanding the scope of the statement, no one seeks God, to include at all times. Thus, the scripture study technique of asking the question, what is the least God is saying, once again leads us away from falsehood and toward truth.

 

The thread's OP assertion is that no one seeks God when they are going against God by sinning. But at other times, some do seek God, such as those who will in Romans 9:16 and those in the process of entering the kingdom in Matthew 23:13.

 

Luke13:24 NASB
“Strive to enter through the narrow door; for many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able.

At a minimum, many lost people, more than a few, will seek the narrow door that leads to life eternal is supported by scripture. The assertion that no one ever seeks God is unbiblical nonsense.

 

Psalm 110:3 teaches that the LORD gave dominion to King David, and is not germane (go figure) to the thread topic.

 

Matthew 23:13 clearly teaches lost individuals had "some" real knowledge and understanding, for they were in the process of entering the kingdom. The biblical truth is the some of the lost seek God some of the time. Ditto for Romans 9:16 and the lost individuals that either "will" or "work" to be saved.

 

Luke 18:24-25
And Jesus looked at him and said, “How hard it is for those who are wealthy to enter the kingdom of God! “For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God!”

Ever wonder why it is hard for the wealthy to enter, if everyone entering has been compelled by irresistible grace. Why would they seek God as a refuge, if they were used to relying upon their wealth to provide their comfort and security? And more to the case at hand, it would be "hard" for those with wealth to abandon their worldly treasure, and make Christ their overriding priority? Like the third "soil" of Matthew 13, the rich young ruler could not abandon his worldly treasure. That is why it is "hard" for the wealthy.

Why is this germane? Because the rich young ruler was seeking how to obtain eternal life, Luke 18:18.
But the rich young ruler would not abandon is wealth. See Luke 18:23.

 

Utter nonsense.

The whole psalm of David does not address the lost seeking or not seeking God.

Psalm 110:3 teaches that the LORD gave dominion to King David, and is not germane (go figure) to the thread topic. Yes, the dominion would go to "the Son of David" (Jesus our Lord). (Matthew 22:44).

The Psalm has nothing whatsoever to do with the lost seeking or not seeking God. Obfuscation on display.​

 

More off-topic change the subject nonsense. I said, "Yes, the dominion would go to "the Son of David" (Jesus our Lord). (Matthew 22:44).

Returning to topic, about about a half dozen separate verses have been cited where the lost seek God. None have been addressed as to the fact presented.

2 Chronicles 15:4,
Psalms 34:4,
Acts of the Apostles 13:7,
Psalms 14:4-5,
Matthew 23:13,
Luke 13:24,
Luke 18:24:25,

 

Romans 9:31-32
however, Israel, pursuing a law of righteousness, did not arrive at that law. Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as though they could by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone,

Here is yet another passage teaching the lost seek God, in the case by works rather than faith. However, yet another proof that the lost do seek God some of the time.

 

Returning to topic, about about a half dozen separate verses have been cited where the lost seek God. None have been addressed as to the fact presented.

2 Chronicles 15:4,
Psalms 34:4,
Acts of the Apostles 13:7,
Psalms 14:4-5,
Matthew 23:13,
Luke 13:24,
Luke 18:24:25,
Romans 9:31-32

 

Psalms 69:32
The humble have seen it and are glad;
You who seek God, let your heart revive.

There is more evidence than you can shake a stick at of lost people seeking God.

 

Here we are told those seeking God are not really seeking God. However, since Matthew 23:13 says those seeking God were actually in the process of "entering the kingdom" that disingenuous argument is shown to be false.

If no one ever seeks God, how is it that "the natural man will seek God."

 

More denial, more nonsense. Those seeking God, but not finding the narrow path that leads to life, Luke 13:24, were actually seeking God according to Jesus.