Are you sure you know what 'Quickened' means?

John 5: 25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live... Brother Glen

 

John 3: 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit... Brother Glen

 

1 John 4: 7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love... Brother Glen

 

Romans 9: 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.

15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy... Brother Glen

 

Revelation 7: 4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Revelation 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

Brother Glen

 

You're telling me that I was physically dead.

That's a doozy.

When was I physically dead?

I believe that the rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated.

In the question from I Corinthians 15:35, we have the clear context, from I Corinthians 15:35.

What are you doing skipping over to I Corinthians?

Are you trying to make the claim that the wording in Ephesians 2 is to be seen within the context of I Corinthians 15?

That's pretty wild.

It is too bad you missed the teaching exalting the Glory of God in salvation through the blood of Jesus Christ that is spelled out and dripping all over Ephesians 2 in the context;
18 "For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father".

Those who were previously "dead in trespasses and sins" do not have some kind of new ability granted to them where they are now able to personally walk up into the Presence of God the Father, face to Face, in their physical body, as if it is a physical body that Ephesians 2:1 is talking about being "dead", that has now been given the capability to gain "access" "unto the Father", provided to them as soon as "He" "Quickened" their dead body from the grave, physically.

That's nuts.

You could say that in that, "Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God."

You did try to clearly go about explaining what you believe about it, though.

That was cool.

You are shown by it to be clearly in error, but it was all presented plainly.

Thanks.

 

That word the translator placed in verse 1 is from verse 5.
". . . Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved; ) . . . "

συνεζωοποιησε

It is not purely the word you think it is.

 

"I have a feeling" that the cheese slid off your cracker.

What's up then with you adding the word, "physically" to the word, "dead"?

So, a presumptuous assumption that you guess the it means is automatically allowed to be added to the Word, by you, and everyone is expected to just acquiesce to that kind of madness?

You are simply adding to the Word and writing it onto the blank pages in the back of the Bible, as if you're saying, "the Word of the Lord came into me".
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Before someone is born they exist as an individual that will eventually be conceived, are only in the Mind of God, as one of His Elect children that He has given to His Son, Who would or had already have paid the ransom for them by His blood, or not.

Once, a child is naturally born, that which flesh is flesh, and that baby from the time of their conception, was always a Created physical entity.

It is appointed once to die.

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:" Hebrew 9:27.

So, we have something that is a physical child, who then grows up in life and they stay alive and until their appointed time, when their physical body dies.

You are saying sometime within their lifetime they have to get killed, before they can be a candidate for salvation and in the position to receive the New Birth, only after they are physically dead?

That's what you see Ephesians teaching, that a person that is physically dead is physically Quickened to life physically?

Or, exactly what on earth are you saying?

Somehow you've come up the God-aweful foolishness of telling me that I died somewhere back during my lifetime, that I would happen to know about, as to whether I did or not, in order for you to then propose that my having been physically dead at some point is the primary determining fact of God regarding the subject of salvation, as if "that what Salvation is all about?"

I don't think you are going to be able to procure any kind of teaching or understanding about Salvation at all, by thinking anything about Salvation can be associated with, or added into all that kind of malarkey.

Fascinating.
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