Featured Does a Multitude of Modern English Bible Versions Promote a Violation of 1 Cor 1:10

! Corinthians 10 says this and the context should be considered:

10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

 

Obviously more new Bible translations will have the effect of division rather than unity among people and churches. It is logical and reasonable to believe this is true. No one on these forums that I have seen has ever begun a thread to show evidence that Christians are more united in doctrine since the deluge of new English Bible translations began in America in 1901 with the ASV. There should be some evidence because the reason many give for them is to make the scriptures more understandable because they are presented in modern language and the translators are much more skilled and better equipped.

Then there is 1 Corinthians 1:10. The command from God is to be unified by speaking the same thing. The implication is that we cannot be unified but divided if we do not. I see all these new modern English translations, paraphrases, and dynamic equivalences as a serious problem that has weakened the churches and divided Christians. People do not know what the word of God is any more and they do not believe they have the words of God because that is what they are told. They have the best ideas of the translators and one might be closer to the truth than the other. I do not think that is what God is looking for in those who worship him. Do you?

 

Think about it. God directs all Christians to speak the same thing and then sanctions 100 and more English translations in 120 years and sows them through the English speaking world. There is enough difference in what they say that they can obtain copyrights on them. What is wrong with God doing this kind of stuff if you think this modern Bible doctrine is his idea?

 

I am responding to your last sentence in your comments.

With all due respect, that seems strange counsel in light of the fact that the most popular translation among modern English speaking Christians, the NIV, has had it said about it by some that it is notorious for attempting to westernize the scriptures by their means of translation. It seems like a conflict of philosophies to me.

 

You veered off track somewhat, JonC. The passage I brought up, 1 Cor 1:10, has a context that will make it very clear that God is not primarily expressing his desire for what his church wears or what music they have or any such as that. He instructs in what they speak and of what mind and judgement they present among themselves until he comes. The idea is that speaking the same thing will bring the unity that God desires and will quench division among them and that following different authorities will bring division.

Now, commenting on the line I underlined;

I do not believe there is credible evidence for this, but if there is, I will be forced to re-evaluate God's command in 1 Cor 1.

 

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If God can give one the Holy Spirit he can give one his words. He gives both. If he doesn't we have been duped. The words he gives explains his giving his Holy Spirit to us (he is invisible) and the Holy Spirit teaches us his words. Things God gives are as perfect as he is.

 

Paul, the apostle to the gentiles wrote to gentile Christians instructing them how to please God. You would not say his instructions concerning tongues in chapter 14 or conduct at the Lord's table in chapter 11, marriage in chapter 7, or the functioning of the body in chapter 12 etc. is exclusive instruction for the Corinthian church, would you? In chapter 1 it is the division over the authority line and Christ is mentioned among the mortals.

 

Men are not inspired. Your reasoning is an error.

Proof:

Ga 2:11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.

Peter is the man who a few years earlier had opened the door of faith to the gentiles with the keys he had been given in Matt 16.

Ac 14:27 And when they were come, and had gathered the church together, they rehearsed all that God had done with them, and how he had opened the door of faith unto the Gentiles.

Ac 15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

I trust you can see the point.

 

The apostles and eye witnesses of the events of which they wrote, the authors of the New Testament, remains to this day the authority of the church. Since the church now has a gentile character, the 13 letters of Paul instructs the church of Jesus Christ, he being distinctly the apostle to the gentiles. For over 18 hundred years there was not a national entity called the nation of Israel or the nation of Judah.. Since 70 AD and the dispersion of the Jews by the Romans those of Jacob have been considered gentiles by God. This is pictured in type by gentile women who were married to Jewish men, like Rebeka, Rahab, Ruth, and five more.

However, during the apostolic era of the church, there was a Jewish church and Paul in Romans says this about them;

Ro 15:15 Nevertheless, brethren, I have written the more boldly unto you in some sort, as putting you in mind, because of the grace that is given to me of God,
16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.
17 I have therefore whereof I may glory through Jesus Christ in those things which pertain to God.
18 For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed,

Ro 15:25 But now I go unto Jerusalem to minister unto the saints.
26 For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem.
27 It hath pleased them verily; and their debtors they are. For if the Gentiles have been made partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister unto them in carnal things.

This passage should convince you that Paul's gentile apostleship was not to individual churches but to gentiles. Now saved men are not Jews or gentiles but the singular church of Jesus Christ.

 

hmmnn, Rob, are we reading the same 1 Cor 1? If you agree that scripture is our authority for faith and practice, what would be your strongest biblical passage for the modern practice of never ending variations of translations and paraphrases? I would like to read it and see what I have missed.