Featured N.T. Wright and Justification

Here we have another new definition of "justification."

Rom 4:25
He who was delivered over because of our wrongdoings, and was raised because of our justification. ​

If we use this bogus definition, we get.'...was raised because of our declaration of justification.. Obviously not the idea.

Romans 5:16 "...the free gift arose from many transgressions resulting in justification." ​

If we use this bogus definition we get "...the free gift arose from many transgressions resulting in our declaration of justification. Again, not the idea.

Rom 5:18
So then, as through one offense the result was condemnation to all mankind, so also through one act of righteousness the result was justification of life to all mankind. ​

If we use the bogus definition we get "...the result was declaration of justification of life to all mankind. Once again, not the idea.

The noun is derived from the verb "justify" and actually refers to the act or process of justifying something. Justification refers to a changed status, and in this context, from an unrighteous sinful state to a state of righteousness. Christ's sacrificial death provides the means for our justification, our reconciliation, our salvation. As sinners, we must be justified, made righteous in order to be reconciled to God, and once reconciled, we are saved from the wrath which would have otherwise been applied to us.

The result of the removal of our sin burden is justification, enabling reconciliation, resulting in salvation.

An interesting sidelight is Paul's use of the preposition "dia" (literally meaning into) but used in these three verses to show instrumentality, the reason for which something is done.

Christ was raised to facilitate our justification (being made righreous) based on God crediting our faith as righteousness.
The free gift provides the means of our justification (being made righteous) based on God crediting our faith as righteousness.
Christ's righteous act of sacrifice provides the means of justification (being made righteous and spiritually alive) of life for all mankind.

 

Too bad you did not provide the quote where justification means "being placed in Christ."

Here is the OP quote:

Declared to be members is not the same as being placed into Christ's spiritual body.

To repeat once again the obvious, justification refers to the act or process of being made righteous by the washing of regeneration the circumcision of Christ.

 

I had not heard of Wright until a few days ago. I looked him up. I don’t agree with him. He doesn’t see the forest for the trees. He seems to look through a microscope all the while missing the picture.

 

Righteousness is imputed, not imparted—that’s a Catholic error.

Sanctification is the process of making it experiential.

 

Which post?

 

Two claims, both false.

God can consider something or someone to be righteous and proclaim that existent condition. For example God proclaimed that Abraham's faith was righteousness, Romans 4:5. Note also that God did not proclaim that Abraham was righteous, only his faith.

The word "sanctification" refers to two related actions by God, first to set someone or something apart for a purpose, and second, to make something or someone holy, righteous and blameless.

If we look at 2 Thessalonians 2:13 we see individuals were chosen for salvation "in (en) sanctification by the Spirit...." The Greek preposition is being used to show instrumentality, the means or manner of that choice. Here the idea is God transfers the individual's human spirit out of being "in Adam" and into being "in Christ." Thus the action of choosing is accomplished by spiritually relocating the chosen person.

 

Romans 4:25
He who was delivered over because of our wrongdoings, and was raised because of our justification.​

Here "justification" translates "dikiaosis," (G1347) and would be better translated "was raised to facilitate our being made righteous."

Romans 5:18
So then, as through one offense the result was condemnation to all mankind, so also through one act of righteousness the result was justification of life to all mankind.​

Here "justification" translates "dikiaosis," (G1347) and would be better translated "...one act of righteousness providing the means of being made righteous and spiritually alive to all mankind."

Romans 5:16
The gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned; for on the one hand the judgment arose from one offense, resulting in condemnation, but on the other hand the gracious gift arose from many offenses, resulting in justification.
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Here "justification" translates "dikaioma," (G1345) and would be better translated "...from many offenses, providing the means of our being made righteous."

 

How can you possibly say that in direct contradiction to the Word of God??

Romans 4:11
And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also.

Romans 4:22
And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness:
Romans 4:23
Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
Romans 4:24
but for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
James 2:23
And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

Imputed is "credited to his account".

 

I hear you, Jon, but I don't trust the doctorate-degreed people, unless they first agree with what I read in Scripture.

When I was saved (by the grace and goodness of God!) I didn't know Scripture and could have ended up like many Christians who just glance at a Bible every few months, but God worked circumstances where a friend gave me a New Testament for my birthday a month after salvation. I started reading it--every day. I read it straight through seven times in a row. In time, I started reading the entire Bible, cover-to-cover, and have completed it dozens of times. My point is not to brag, but to say this: I don't need the doctorate-degreed folks. The plain sense of the fisher folk is fine by me. If it can't make sense to ME, then it's too complicated for others, who have educated themselves into superiority over the rest of us (Nicolaitanism).

That brings me to Calvinism. I was raised Primitive Baptist, but as I just said, when I was saved, I started reading the Bible over and over, and forgot about that raising. I was reading GOD'S WORD! Years later, I encountered Calvinism, and started remembering the old stuff--I was surprised that Calvinism turns the Bible upside down and backward. It is NOT what Scripture plainly says.

SO---! I don't worry about Calvinism. When I get to Heaven, if God tells me Calvin was saved, I'll be happy for him, and if God tells me Calvinism is correct, I will say, "Well how about that? I believed the Bible exactly as it was written and I got it wrong? Well, Lord, I am surprised!".

When my Bible tells me God wants all to be saved (and it does tell me that), I believe it.

When my Bible tells me, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved..." I believe it.

When my Bible tells me, "And it shall come to pass that whosoever calleth on the name of the Lord shall be saved", I believe it.

Therefore my Bible teaches me Calvin is in error. If God tells me in Heaven that he wasn't, then I'll believe I made a mistake by taking Scripture at face value. Until then, I will believe it exactly as it is written, "thus saith the LORD".

 

Lol, @Van does it all the time...

Vanology for the most part is "in direct contradiction to the Word of God".

Hang around, you'll see.

 

WINNER!! ...more wisdom from your 'Old Baptist' upbringing whether you admit it or not...

"The Bible is a plain book. It is intelligible by the people. And they have the right, and are bound to read and interpret it for themselves; so that their faith may rest on the testimony of the Scriptures, and not on that of the Church. Such is the doctrine of Protestants on this subject.........." Charles Hodge

 

You do know that truth is truth, a fact is a fact, regardless of it's source, right?

Just saying...

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If memory serves me right it was PBs that first acquainted me with some of Hodge's writings and I bought his Systematic Theology.

Take the skin off of Primitive Baptists and Calvinists and you have Monergists.