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whenever I see these long explanations, my dyslexic mind kicks in and I fade into non-understanding. No criticism to you or others who strive so abundantly to make their point known but I just don’t get it. Maybe it’s prior religious training I strived to understand but just could not put it together, maybe maybe maybe, oh woo is me. But we are not trying to make it complex here are we… just attempting to make it enlightening. So be definitive and direct. That’s all I ask.

 

@Alan Gross he is the guilty one. Hahahaha

 

Speaking of the flesh, if that one word is gotten out of the way, all of this would go out of the way, too: God’s 7000 Year (7-Day) Plan

2.) I just write down what is my heart and click the button.

If you are backsliden (Whhoooo, Nelly! ...that is just my attempt at being funny and unfortunately I don't know how to be, so alas) anyway, a couple of things here, anytime you can't be bothered with postings of mine.

I am learning how to 'collapse them' where you wouldn't have to see their length or decorative colorations, but would just be given the option to 'expand' it, if you ever cared to.

I also have a blog where extended secondary sources material can be posted by me instead of here. I'll get around to that more, in case anybody wants more in-depth study.

Otherwise,

In viewing any posts of mine;

The highlighted portions may be scanned to get the gist of what I'm saying, if you want a shorter, quicker take, to save time.

And/or;

3.) The scriptures are mostly oftentimes highlighted purple, to give emphasis to them and also to save time, if you just want to feed on them, or to see basically where I'm at on a subject, and move on.

"But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen."
II Peter 3:18.

from: I don't see how a soul can say they are saved without cutting and pasting all over creation.

 

Hey, man: how do you make a "multi-fonted post" I'm always bollocked for?

I want to do it! I want to do it!

 

Have at it.

I'd rather see too much information, than those who don't say a nickel's worth in six months.*

Why don't they take the opportunity to worship the Lord?

Don't they have any Joy bells in there somewhere that they want to ring?

(*where you rarely ever see the words, "God", "Jesus", "The Holy Spirit", or a scripture hardly ever quoted. They get to be too much like a church bulletin or advertisement, or sometimes even religious websites, where it is if they have, "Programmed The Lord Jesus and The Bible out of their program"(?) I see there to be much more to worshipping God than whining. But that's just me).

 

(John 21:23)
So the rumor spread among the community of believers that this disciple wouldn’t die. But that isn’t what Jesus said at all. He only said, “If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you?”

 

+ the flesh =

There is no implication of anything relating to when God would "finish all things" and "a day is with Him a thousand years" has no relevance to the Creation or Consummation.

Mr. Barnabas is saying that he knows when the Lord will Return?

Looks like that is exactly what he thought he know;

He got a "therefore" that tells when the Lord is Coming Back out of, "And God made in six days the works of His hands, and made an end on the seventh day"? by mixing it with a totally irrelevant and unrelated simile?

"But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." II Peter 3:8.

This teaches that time is irrelevant to God and nothing more.

"one day is with the Lord as a thousand years" is some special formula to be arbitrarily applied and plugged into somewhere that there is no indication for it to be used that way anywhere, any more to try and do that with,
"a thousand years as one day".

Which one would you be supposed to be using, if so? Where?

That is quite a gratuitous assertion.

Where did he get that? From calling the account of Creation a PROPHECY?

He sure did!!

What about that?

I suppose, unless the Earth is here 10,500 years before Jesus Returns. Right?

How would he know?

Looks to me like revealed Word on the subject regarding the time of Jesus' Return, blows a big shotgun blast hole into these speculations made by men. At least we know where they came from.

Matthew 24:35
"Heaven and earth shall pass away,
but my words shall not pass away.

36 "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no,
not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37 "But as the days of Noe were,
so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."

Plus the flesh =

There is no clever arithmetic to:
"But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing,
that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years,
and a thousand years as one day." II Peter 3:8.

It is a simile, making a comparison between two things.

And then that the converse is just as true from God's perspective, to Whom time is irrelevant.

1 day = 1,000 years = 1,000 years = 1 day.

And?

And there we have it, "they say" and "they say".

Not the Bible, then.

Two questions: Who are "they" and who are "they"?

Did you know that when "the six thousandth year" is completed, that
"when this number is completed the consummation must take place".

Did you know that?

That's what Lactantius - Christian apologist of the fourth century said.

I don't know if he was a comedian too.

Plus the flesh, he gives us another "therefore" out of the clear blue sky, making this thing walk on four legs, by itself;

Whew.

Plus the flesh (which must be added to the equation to make it work.
You're certainly not going to get there, by mixing any scriptures with faith);

And donkeys fly. Why not add that in there, too?

And in the Thousand Year Reign, Jesus is going to make me the Governor of your state, so you better be good to me.

Negative, on "the last chapter of Revelation confirms it".

Not there. Nothing like it. Nothing close.

It ain't happening to find confirmation anywhere for these wild rash guesses, based on the carnal mind of man and their sin-cursed imagination, toying with the Bible like it is a set of Tinker Toys or something.

Hint: they don't know.

 

Some take Exodus 20:9 as prophetic. God compares this commandment to the 6 days of creation. Peter compares the 6 days of creation to the time given to humanity. What God did in 6 days, would take 6,000 years for humanity to accomplish. It is not arbitrary, because Peter said not to be ignorant. Saying time does not matter to God, is being ignorant. Time was built into creation. Time is very much relevant to God.

"For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men."

 

Our modern calendar is off by a few years because of some mistakes that were made in its creation, like the failure to count a year zero, for example, but even accounting for these errors as best we can, we'd have hit the 6000 year mark at about the year 1996, some twenty eight years ago. (See article linked below...)

How does that not falsify this idea?

The World: Born in 4004 BC?

 

I very clearly remember this exact argument being made in a little book that was going around in 1988. It was called...

88 Reasons Why the Rapture is in 1988

I read that book several times and believed it, at the time. I've since learned that ALL 88 reasons were wrong.

Imagine that! Imagine writing a book where the whole premise is to list 88 reasons for something and you manage to get all 88 reasons wrong. When the rapture didn't happen, he wrote another book the next year called "89 Reasons...". Stunning!

There were at least hundreds, if not thousands of Christians who sold their houses and did completely irresponsible things because of that false teaching and I myself had a pretty tough time working through the disappointment and confusion that it caused in my own faith.

The thing I always try to remind people is that literally every generation of Christians that has ever existed, starting with the Apostles themselves, believed that they were living in the end times. If the current generation is wrong, which they almost certainly are, then we're all in good company.

 

I think you are safe in that regard. The 6,000 year plan started when Adam disobeyed God, and sin entered the world. No one really knows the date that happened. I would point out that the second Adam obeyed God around 30 years of age.

That could indicate the first Adam disobeyed God after living in the Garden for about 30 years.

Creation did not start 6,000 years ago, and no dating method works prior to sin and death. Because the decay of atomic structures only started after Adam disobeyed, and the curse was placed on creation.

The Sabbath of God's rest would be the first 1,000 years of creation, after 6 literal days of creation. That Sabbath will happen again as the 1,000 year reign of Christ on earth. God does not spell it out for us. It would be in God's Word as a mystery to discover. Even Peter told us not to be ignorant in 2 Peter 3, but many choose to remain in ignorance.

Many want to manufacture "gaps" in Genesis to explain how evolution and sin works. Sin is clearly explained in the NT, but we still have to connect the dots.

 

How versus when. The how view point, the Lord will return suddenly. The when view point, the Lord will return soon.

Matthew 24:27, ". . . For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. . . ."

Matthew 24:44, ". . . Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. . . ."

 

Adam and Eve would have both been created in physically prime condition (i.e. fully mature) and they neither had television to pass the time nor bore any children while in their innocence. Thus, they fell pretty quickly.

That is a VERY abbreviated version of a very well thought out argument that they fell quickly. In fact, there is fairly good reason to suspect, although you could not be dogmatic about it, that they fell on the Friday, one week following their creation, which would have been the 13th day A.M. (Anno Mundi) making it the very first Friday the 13th.

No. It really couldn't.

According to the bible it did.

Where did you come up with this idea? Adam's sin didn't change the laws of physics.

That seems backward. The Sabbath is the seventh day, not the first.

So there's two Sabbath "days" with only 5000 years (five days) inbetween? I don't get it.

It's starting to sound like it would be wise to let the bible be silent where it is silent.

I don't disagree with this notion but we're also warned about straining out gnats before swallowing camels.

The point being that we need to guard against getting carried away and making connections where they don't actually exist.

There are no gaps in Genesis. God created the Heaven, the Earth, the sea and EVERYTHING in them in six days. (Exodus 20:11)

 

On the contrary! He was very careful not to be any more specific than the text would allow. Meaning that he did not pin it down to a specific day or hour.

...or 500 or 5000 or 50,000. The only indication we are given as to the end of this dispensation is "when the fullness of the Gentiles has come in." (Romans 11:25) Every other argument I've ever seen anyone make, including ALL 88 reasons given in that guys book, has to do with Israel and the continuation of their prophesied program, which is currently put on an indefinite hold.