1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

For Catholics: Does Mary agree with your Pope?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by canadyjd, Mar 4, 2024.

?
  1. Yes

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. No

    2 vote(s)
    100.0%
  3. Not sure

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. canadyjd

    canadyjd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2005
    Messages:
    13,409
    Likes Received:
    1,760
    Faith:
    Baptist
    …. The Pope has decided priests can “bless” same s:x couples. Do you think Mary agrees with your Pope
     
  2. Cathode

    Cathode Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2021
    Messages:
    1,969
    Likes Received:
    222
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    I think she’d draw the line at blessing trolls, same sex or otherwise.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  3. canadyjd

    canadyjd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2005
    Messages:
    13,409
    Likes Received:
    1,760
    Faith:
    Baptist
    A very good thing I know she has no authority to bless anything.

    But the question isn’t about whether Mary blesses anything.

    Do you believe Mary agrees with your Pope that priests can “bless” same s:x couples?

    I do understand the Pope’s statement puts a lot of Catholics in a tough spot, and many have openly opposed his statement.

    Peace to you
     
    • Like Like x 1
  4. Cathode

    Cathode Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2021
    Messages:
    1,969
    Likes Received:
    222
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Mary blessed us with Jesus by agreeing to be His mother.

    As the document says, it’s not blessing the union. The blessing is for individuals. The document also states that the blessing it is not an endorsement of the gay lifestyle or activity.

    No, but it does leave us open to criticism by ignorant people that haven’t read the document, or know what blessings mean in context. They don’t want understand the issue, they want to confirm their prejudices mostly.
     
    #4 Cathode, Mar 4, 2024
    Last edited: Mar 4, 2024
    • Agree Agree x 1
  5. Earth Wind and Fire

    Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2010
    Messages:
    33,898
    Likes Received:
    1,660
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Do you consider Frank to be infallible? That’s the real question.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  6. Earth Wind and Fire

    Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2010
    Messages:
    33,898
    Likes Received:
    1,660
    Faith:
    Baptist
    That last statement is just foolishness… at for people who are realistic … not idealistic
     
    • Like Like x 2
  7. Mikoo

    Mikoo Active Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2021
    Messages:
    312
    Likes Received:
    38
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I always thought it was God who Blessed us with Jesus. John 3:16
     
    • Winner Winner x 3
  8. Earth Wind and Fire

    Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2010
    Messages:
    33,898
    Likes Received:
    1,660
    Faith:
    Baptist
    She agreed to be a vessel to that event. What’s more she met his needs & reared him in his childhood to manhood journey. Lastly she was there at his crucifix time which was hard to witness… but she remained present. Give credit where credits due.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
  9. canadyjd

    canadyjd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2005
    Messages:
    13,409
    Likes Received:
    1,760
    Faith:
    Baptist
    My understand of the statement from the Pope is that priests can “bless” same s:x couples. If it didn’t say “couples”, there would have been far less controversy. Maybe you should read it again before accusing others of ignorance.

    I do understand the verbal gymnastics that attempts the distinguish between “blessing” same s:x couples and “blessing” a “union” between same s:x couples. That is a distinction without a difference and Catholics around the world plainly understand this is a move toward recognizing g:y marriage.

    It has caused confusion within the Catholic community, at best, and open rebellion against your Pope and the statement.

    peace to you
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  10. Earth Wind and Fire

    Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2010
    Messages:
    33,898
    Likes Received:
    1,660
    Faith:
    Baptist
    An agenda that Frank continues to push btw. Also, where does his agency, Catholic Charities, get off funding illegal aliens with transportation, housing, food etc into the United States?
     
    #10 Earth Wind and Fire, Mar 5, 2024
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2024
    • Useful Useful x 1
  11. canadyjd

    canadyjd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2005
    Messages:
    13,409
    Likes Received:
    1,760
    Faith:
    Baptist
    If you are so certain what the statement says, you should vote “yes” Mary agrees with my Pope, the Victor of Christ, the mouthpiece of God Himself who is infallible when issuing statements on such issues.

    peace to you
     
  12. Cathode

    Cathode Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2021
    Messages:
    1,969
    Likes Received:
    222
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    The Church doesn’t control immigration policy, it’s only responding to the crisis created by the lawless government.
     
  13. Cathode

    Cathode Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2021
    Messages:
    1,969
    Likes Received:
    222
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Frank, no.

    Francis, Yes, if he is speaking Ex cathedra, and it doesn’t go against previous Ex cathedra statements of previous Popes, those past doctrines can’t be changed.

    The Chair of Moses was still used by God, even though the guy judged Jesus to His Face.

    Jesus established the Office of Peter, it can not be prevailed against even after 2000 years of every kind of attack, it was founded by the power of Jesus Word.

    There will be more crises to come, like the past and possibly far worse, but the Chair Jesus established will remain until He returns.
     
  14. Cathode

    Cathode Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2021
    Messages:
    1,969
    Likes Received:
    222
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Blessings are for the individual whether they present as a couple or group, it’s not marriage.
    Yes Mary would agree with the Pope.

    Also those in irregular heterosexual relationships, divorced etc can receive an individual blessing without legitimating their union.
     
  15. Cathode

    Cathode Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2021
    Messages:
    1,969
    Likes Received:
    222
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    So if a priest blesses 50 soldiers, are they married? No. It’s an individual blessing for each, even though they present as a group.
    Blessing people is fine, it’s not endorsing the union.

    It shuts the door on gay marriage, it blesses individuals, it does not endorse, condone or bless the union.
     
  16. Earth Wind and Fire

    Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2010
    Messages:
    33,898
    Likes Received:
    1,660
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I only legitimize heterosexual couples that conceive and have children. A blessing should be twofold(1) Honoring God (2) rearing children correctly … a myriad of rules for that one. … and this cannot be done if you can’t procreate! This is where the blessing emphasis should be stressed. I sincerely believe that this pope is a false one and an agent of the devil because he is underhandedly promoting a homosexual lifestyle which is forbidden in Christs church. Mary, the mother of Jesus the Christ would not approve.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  17. Walter

    Walter Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2011
    Messages:
    2,534
    Likes Received:
    144
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    You are wrong. The pope is not 'infallible when making such statements'. You need to read the catechism. This is a common misunderstanding by many evangelicals. If he speaks 'ex-cathedra', he is infallible. That is a rare occurrence. The last time that happened was in 1950. And, he is the 'vicar of Christ', not victor.
     
Loading...