Justification by Faith !

[Brightfame52]

As I said BF, one is only justified by God because they believe.

Do you think that one is justified/saved when they do not believe?

To be Justified by or through Faith is the result of Gods Promise Read Rom 3:30

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

Notice, He shall do it, that's a Promise, its not conditioned on the sinner

 

[Silverhair]

To be Justified by or through Faith is the result of Gods Promise Read Rom 3:30

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

Notice, He shall do it, that's a Promise, its not conditioned on the sinner

BF you have had your error in reading and understanding of scripture pointed out to you on numerous occasions. You are not seeking truth but rather compliance with your errant views.

Still did not answer the question did you?

Do you think that one is justified/saved when they do not believe?

 

[Brightfame52]

BF you have had your error in reading and understanding of scripture pointed out to you on numerous occasions. You are not seeking truth but rather compliance with your errant views.

Still did not answer the question did you?

Do you think that one is justified/saved when they do not believe?

To be Justified by or through Faith is the result of Gods Promise Read Rom 3:30

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

Notice, He shall do it, that's a Promise, its not conditioned on the sinner

 

[Silverhair]

To be Justified by or through Faith is the result of Gods Promise Read Rom 3:30

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

Notice, He shall do it, that's a Promise, its not conditioned on the sinner

Still avoiding the question BF. Tell us what you really think BF.

Do you think that one is justified/saved when they do not believe?

 

[37818]

Calvinist's, many poorly understand their own view.
Hearing the gospel precedes regeneration which is why regeneration is understood to precede the believing the gospel. But we find we must disagree with that understanding.

hearing the gospel > regeneration > faith.
Versus.
hearing the gospel > faith > regeneration.

 

[Van]

To be Justified by or through Faith is the result of Gods Promise Read Rom 3:30

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

Notice, He shall do it, thats a Promise its not conditioned on the sinner

What!! God does not make conditional promises? Your posts have wandered off the path of truth.
God gives grace to the humble? God opposes the proud?

 

[Brightfame52]

Still avoiding the question BF. Tell us what you really think BF.

Do you think that one is justified/saved when they do not believe?

To be Justified by or through Faith is the result of Gods Promise Read Rom 3:30

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

Notice, He shall do it, that's a Promise, its not conditioned on the sinner

 

[Brightfame52]

What!! God does not make conditional promises? Your posts have wandered off the path of truth.
God gives grace to the humble? God opposes the proud?

To be Justified by or through Faith is the result of Gods Promise Read Rom 3:30

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

Notice, He shall do it, that's a Promise, its not conditioned on the sinner

 

[Silverhair]

To be Justified by or through Faith is the result of Gods Promise Read Rom 3:30

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

Notice, He shall do it, that's a Promise, its not conditioned on the sinner

BF you are childish in your responses or actually your lack of response.

Do you think that one is justified/saved when they do not believe? That is a simple yes or no answer that is required, Is that to complicated for you?

I will say you are the typical calvinist I have come across. You will not answer direct questions and post errant views that are not biblically supported.

 

[kyredneck]

Hearing the gospel precedes regeneration

Not.

 

[Silverhair]

Not.

So your saying the regeneration precedes hearing the gospel. Based on what?

 

[Brightfame52]

BF you are childish in your responses or actually your lack of response.

Do you think that one is justified/saved when they do not believe? That is a simple yes or no answer that is required, Is that to complicated for you?

I will say you are the typical calvinist I have come across. You will not answer direct questions and post errant views that are not biblically supported.

This discussion is about Justification by Faith.

 

[Van]

To be Justified by or through Faith is the result of Gods Promise Read Rom 3:30

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

Notice, He shall do it, that's a Promise, its not conditioned on the sinner

The condition is "by or through" faith.

Folks, pay no attention to the non-stop deflection to hide the truth.

God justifies "by" faith. But just what this means is left for inference.

1) The Greek preposition translated as "by" is "ek" meaning out from or arising from, and is frequently best translated as "based on" which I have addressed numerous times.

2) The Greek preposition translated as "through" is "dia" meaning by means of, and would best be translated as "by means of acquired faith. The Jews already believed in God and His promises, the Gentiles had to first acquire that faith.

Justification of sinners occurs based on God crediting our faith in Christ's faithful sacrifice as righteousness.

 

[Silverhair]

This discussion is about Justification by Faith.

So why do you not answer the question?

Do you think that one is justified/saved when they do not believe? The question, which you will not answer, is when is one justified, before or after faith in God?

So it is relevant to your continued "Justification by Faith" comment. State your position BF.

 

[Brightfame52]

The condition is "by or through" faith.

Folks, pay no attention to the non-stop deflection to hide the truth.

God justifies "by" faith. But just what this means is left for inference.

1) The Greek preposition translated as "by" is "ek" meaning out from or arising from, and is frequently best translated as "based on" which I have addressed numerous times.

2) The Greek preposition translated as "through" is "dia" meaning by means of, and would best be translated as "by means of acquired faith. The Jews already believed in God and His promises, the Gentiles had to first acquire that faith.

Justification of sinners occurs based on God crediting our faith in Christ's faithful sacrifice as righteousness.

The condition is Gods promise.

 

[kyredneck]

So you’re ased on scripture. saying the regeneration precedes hearing the gospel. Based on what?

Based on scripture. If you don’t believe the T in TULIP you’ll never see it.

 

[Silverhair]

Based on scripture. If you don’t believe the T in TULIP you’ll never see it.

Well since your T in tulip is just your man-made ideas of how one should understand scripture. I will just trust scripture and let you stay in your calvinist error.

 

[kyredneck]

Well since your T in tulip is just your man-made ideas of how one should understand scripture. I will just trust scripture and let you stay in your calvinist error.

Good! You ain’t gonna change, I ain’t either. Go pick someone else to get your ‘fix’.

Besides, I’m having to use my phone right now, my PC is on the blink.

 

[Silverhair]

Good! You ain’t gonna change, I ain’t either. Go pick someone else to get your ‘fix’.

Besides, I’m having to use my phone right now, my PC is on the blink.

NO fix required KY. I just keep pointing out the calvinist errors.

 

[Brightfame52]

Based on scripture. If you don’t believe the T in TULIP you’ll never see it.

Jesus says men by nature, even the most religious wont come to Him for Life Jn 5:40

40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Thats because we by nature are totally depraved and love darkness rather than light, Jesus is Light but naturally we love darkness

Jn 3:19-20

19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

Jesus teaches total depravity here !