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Your post just confirms what I have said, by your own words you show you twist scripture to your own ends.

 

God through His grace saves those that believe. They are the elect because they do believe not so they will believe as you would have it.

 

Your posts would say otherwise.

 

@KenH I do not enjoy telling you what I see in your posts as I am sure you really do love God. The unfortunate reality is that your theology calls into question the very character of God. You have taken the God of the bible that loves His creation and made Him a God that actually hates the vast majority of it. Remember it is your version of God that has decreed all that can or will happen.

Your version of God has decreed to save just a small group and has condemned the rest to hell for for rejecting Him not because they wanted to but because they could not do anything else as your version of God decreed it so.

You try to avoid the obvious by saying that man just does what is his greatest desire but you overlook the fact that your God has decreed what mans nature/desire should be and by His decree they will only reject Him.

 

I am sorry Ken but these verses do not support your view as much as you would like them to. You have trusted in a man-made theology rather than the Holy Spirit inspired word of God.

The Holy word of God has been twisted and maligned by well meaning man in their rush to distance themselves from the Church of Rome. There efforts brought us the reformation which is a good thing but they followed Augustine which is a bad thing. Augustine brought pagan philosophy into the church and some of the reformers just carried his views forward.

 

1Jn 3:8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.

1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
1Ti 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

 

Did Paul change his mind concerning Jesus as the Son of God, or did God the Father through Jesus the Son call Paul out of unbelief unto belief for PURPOSE?

Did Paul become a recipient of the first-fruit of the Spirit? Why is there a first-fruit of the Spirit?

Joe 2:28

And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

All flesh today or just the Paul's for purpose? When is afterward ? Can just anyone that free willing wants to receive the Spirit of Truth or just the ones God is calling for purpose?

Acts 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.
Gal 3:2 YLT this only do I wish to learn from you -- by works of law the Spirit did ye receive, or by the hearing of faith? [or
out of hearing of faith]
Gal 3:14 YLT that to the nations the blessing of Abraham may come in Christ Jesus, that the promise of the Spirit we may receive through the faith. --- What is, "the faith," the called hear, out of which they receive the Spirit? Is it not the obedient death and thus resurrection of Jesus the Christ.

Jesus on the cross became the, obedience of faith. IMHO

Eph 2:8 [to the] for [to] grace ye are having been saved, through [the] faith [obedient death], and this not of you -- of God the gift,

You have been saved, because of, the obedient death and thus the resurrection of Jesus [grace of life]

Heirs (not yet inheritors) of the grace of life. As in 1 Peter 3:7

 

That is not what the word of God says. God's choosing yes. But not the election itself. Compare word usage as in Mark 13:20, . . . for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen . . .

1 Corinthians 1:27 . . . chosen . . . .
James 2:5 . . . chosen . . . .
Ephesians 1:4, . . . chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, . . .

 

No. That choosing precedes election, proof text, Mark 13:20. And a calling precedes it's election, no exceptions. See Romans 9:11.

 

Joh 6:38 "For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
Joh 6:39 "This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day.
Joh 6:40 "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day."

The will of God is that those that believe in the Son will be given to Him. But note they have to believe as God is not going to do it for them as your calvinism seems to think.