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Was there a Jack Hyles "denomination" of fundamental Baptists?

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  1. Logos1560

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    In his 1996 book THE SCIENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN LIFE Volume Two, Jack Hyles wrote: "I am not bragging on myself, but God has chosen this ministry to influence an entire generation of fundamentalists" (p. 175).

    This quote is in his chapter entitled "The Science of Calling a Pastor" (pp. 169-179).

    Some of his points include the following:

    "Choose someone who comes to Pastors' School in Hammond, Indiana, every year" (p. 174)
    "Choose someone who sends students to Hyles-Anderson College" (p. 175).
    "Choose someone who knows and emulates the work of the First Baptist Church of Hammond, Indiana" (p. 175)
    "Choose someone who is in our camp all the way" (p. 176).

    "Choose someone who is not a Bible expositor" (p. 174).

    Would the Jack Hyles "camp" in effect be like a denomination?
     
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    I was in a fundamentalist church from 1979 to 1984. When our pastor moved away we ended up with a "Hylelite" pastor and from my standpoint, it was a different denomination after he came. Personally, I managed to get along with him, was a deacon, went "soul winning" with him (which was something) and was on good terms with him when we moved out of the area and left the church. I heard he caused a lot of problems after we left. I knew of one other missionary who was a graduate from Hyles Anderson college and he was a fine Christian and a gentlemen from anything I ever heard of him. I am aware of the problems Jack Hyles himself got involved in also.

    I would not bother with his books to be honest with you. I threw the book I had from him away, which I rarely do, not out of anger but I just didn't think he had much to contribute. I think the book was "Grace and Truth" or something like that.
     
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    Not an expositor of the Bible? Wow

    what do you preach then?
     
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    Mr. Hyles came from the sector that held all preaching should be evangelistic.
     
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    Perhaps Jack Hyles at one time preached some expository sermons which became the basis for his early book Let's Study Revelation.

    Jeri Massi described one sermon "Fresh Oil" by Jack Hyles as follows: "He has not referenced the text yet, and we are beyond 16 minutes into the sermon" (Schizophrenic Sermons: An Analysis by Jeri Massi, Second Edition, p. 37). Jeri Massi commented: "But here we are 20 minutes into this sermon, and he still has not preached the text" (p. 37). Jeri Massi commented: "At last (time 37:30) he gets back to his original texts about being anointed" (p. 41).

    Jeri Massi claimed: "a few years ago I read up on the life of J. Frank Norris, and I can say with certainty that Jack Hyles lifted the story of Norris's childhood and pasted it onto his own. Vic Nischik, who wrote The Wizard of God, researched Hyles' background and also debunked Hyles' account of his father as being an unbelieving drunkard. According to Nischik, Hyles' father left his mother because of her refusal to grant him conjugal rights after Jack was born. But Hyles' father was a deacon and supported his wife and son" (p. 46).
     
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    Jack Hyles claimed: "I am not fighting expository preaching, but that kind of preaching will destroy a great church" (Science of the Christian Life, p. 174).

    Jack Hyles claimed: "The great soul-winning churches have been pastored by topical preaching" (p. 174).
     
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    From my personal interaction with him during my days at MBBC, I concluded Mr. Hyles was a prima donna who saw himself as the heir to J. Frank Norris. He also conflated East Texas customs with Biblical morality.
     
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    I heard the fresh oil. It was terrible

    if I remember he claims that he went to a cemetery and stayed there. His claim was he did not know if it was 3 seconds, the minutes, 3 hours or 3 days. I could not believe he would make a comment like that and expect people to believe it
     
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    Didn't he get caught having an extramarital affair?
     
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    Yep. Stomping, whooping, screaming, and hollering is much more important than exposition.
     
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    That too. :(
     
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    We use the word "sect" on the BB for those following pernicious errors (and those, like Hyles, teaching and promoting them). We do NOT use the word "cult".

    But if we did use that word, the men/churches following his beliefs and practicing them in the name of Christ, the Webster Dictionary definitions would help to clarify.

    1 a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also its body of adherents

    2 a great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work

    3 a system of religious beliefs and ritual, veneration

    (Jack Hyles and his minions to a T)
     
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    Hyles described his homiletics as "read and holler." In other words, read a verse or two and then holler about it. :confused: (I remember this from a message of his, I disremember which.)
     
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    Long ago (1982?) while visiting the pastor of Allagash Baptist Church, he played a recording of "Fresh Oil" and asked what I thought of it. My take was that the message was less about an important facet and more about Jack Hyles.
     
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