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Pastoral Ministry as a Second Career
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The Apostle Paul was a preacher tentmaker.
Acts 18:1 After these things Paul departed from Athens, and came to Corinth;
2 And found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, lately come from Italy, with his wife Priscilla; (because that Claudius had commanded all Jews to depart from Rome and came unto them.
3 And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them, and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers.
4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
This might be of interest to you... Our ordained Pastor was retired Coast Guard and while he Pastored our church, had a job as captain and pilot of the hydrofoil at Sea world in San Diego, until his passing in 1985... Brother Glen
Acts 18:1 After these things Paul departed from Athens, and came to Corinth;
2 And found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, lately come from Italy, with his wife Priscilla; (because that Claudius had commanded all Jews to depart from Rome and came unto them.
3 And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them, and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers.
4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
This might be of interest to you... Our ordained Pastor was retired Coast Guard and while he Pastored our church, had a job as captain and pilot of the hydrofoil at Sea world in San Diego, until his passing in 1985... Brother Glen
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There were times when he made tents but he was entirely and always a bivo tentmaker.
Deena
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Pastors are to work or if retired, on Social Security. They are not to be hirelings. All men in the Bible worked, if not, you are akin to an infidel unless you can't work due to health of course. It appears okay/good to reap from efforts, via Apostle Paul to provide Pastors with food. Possibly shelter though it was required back then as they'd have no where to stay otherwise. I give my Pastor a monthly $40 gift certificate for groceries He is un-paid and our church is small
1 Cor 11: If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you? If others share this rightful claim on you, do not we even more?
1 Cor 11: If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you? If others share this rightful claim on you, do not we even more?
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Upon graduation from seminary, I ministered full time with full salary. 60-hour week was the norm. When I later began "mission" work with small churches or founding churches or even in my last 15 year pastorate in church I founded, I was on a love-offering (to help defray expenses, $100 a week from the church was the norm. I taught college classes, wrote books, worked for organizations.
I could NOT have ministered as effectively in my first 25 years of ministry with small children and needs of family. I feel it is hard enough if you are truly invested in ministry WITHOUT adding a second job. That changed the last 25 years in ministry as children were grown/gone, wife working, house paid for, and social security/medicare.
LOTS of different factors than apostolic times. Growing up Jewish the idea of our reb working at more than our congregation would be anathema. Our rule was if congregation had 10 tithing families, this equaled the "average" salary of the rabbi. Then HIS tithe would pay for supplies/utilities for the meeting house. It worked well. We taught men to do the same today in our State Baptist mission work.
I could NOT have ministered as effectively in my first 25 years of ministry with small children and needs of family. I feel it is hard enough if you are truly invested in ministry WITHOUT adding a second job. That changed the last 25 years in ministry as children were grown/gone, wife working, house paid for, and social security/medicare.
LOTS of different factors than apostolic times. Growing up Jewish the idea of our reb working at more than our congregation would be anathema. Our rule was if congregation had 10 tithing families, this equaled the "average" salary of the rabbi. Then HIS tithe would pay for supplies/utilities for the meeting house. It worked well. We taught men to do the same today in our State Baptist mission work.
Blank
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Yes, I believe for Paul tent making was his 2nd career as preaching was his 1st love.
1 Corinthians 9:16 KJV
For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!
I think you use the word hireling out of context. A hireling is someone who is solely there for the money. Their interest is not in the work, it is in their pay. In that sense it is true that they should not be a hireling. This doesn’t mean they should be be hired.
Luke 10:7
And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.
The laborer should be hired.
He should be able to pay his bills.
He should be able to labor in Word and doctrine.
1 Tim. 5:17-18
Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine. For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.
I was asked once what I wanted for double honor and what were the standards or merits that I should be expected to achieve in order to obtain double honor.
My response was only to point out that there wasn’t even interest in paying a regular honor. I asked him what he thought an honor would be and told him to double it.